Brexit: Now What? Part III

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ddt said:
That's a good addition.

It's just that you don't need a residence permit to move within the EU, while, say, 25 years ago, you still needed a residence permit and you only were entitled to it if you had a job in the first place.

But of course, according to the xenophobic Brexiteer cohort, all those dirty Poles come to scrounge on UK benefits, and at the same time to steal jobs from honest Britons. :rolleyes:
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Whilst you don't need a residence permit, if you want to register for benefits such as health care, unemployment or housing benefits, a job insurance/income tax registration number (which employers are obliged to ask for) then you have to prove you are living in the area on a permanent basis (you can't have your primary home elsewhere).
 
GlennB said:
And our women too, don't forget that :D Possibly because they're hard-working and polite?
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The first time I understood this attitude was when, a couple of years ago, I found myself on the job market as a fully qualified accountant and was shocked to discover I was competing against a whole bunch of East Europeans who thought £25K pa was good.

Given the average UK salary is £66K (for my profession) I felt quite competitively hacked off by this unwelcome discovery.
 
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ceptimus said:
Pessimists with little imagination are unable to visualize beauty before they get to see it.

When those pessimists also do their level best to stop the beautiful thing from ever being built in the first place it can complicate matters.
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What has "beauty" got to do with the Brexit debacle? What's needed are people who can think clearly and quickly and create solutions.
 
ddt said:
Very modest progress IMHO. According to Barnier, the UK still wants to have their cake and eat it too w.r.t. the Common Market.
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And expects the EU to then hand them more cake. With whipped cream. And custard. And chocolate ice cream And a few mini-Flakes stuck in...
 
Delphic Oracle said:
From across the pond, it does strike me that the EU absolutely has an interest in the UK experiencing some turbulence and maybe even some pain in their leaving. They have to give every other EU country watching a case study to consider should they start pondering an exit themselves.
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Plus several member states have an interest in slicing a few bits off the UK's corpse.
 
The Don said:
There are lots of terrible Brexit analogies, here's yet another.

The Brexit vote was, in essence, at vote about whether or not to move house where the question was just "Should we move house ?". The Remain position was clear insofar as we were already living in our current house and so we knew where it was, what the current advantages and disadvantages of the house were, what the area was like, and so on.

The Leave position was unclear. Some people voted to move because they wanted a penthouse flat in the city, others wanted a stately pile in the country others yet wanted to move to a bungalow at the seaside. The costs involved in the move were unclear and we had no idea what kind of house we would be moving to and where it would be.

"Project fear" pointed out that if we moved there would risks. For example, the house could be far more expensive or if we were in the country we wouldn't be able to get to the shops quite as easily. The Leave campaign assured us that the house would be far better, the mortgage payments would be far lower and we'd still be able to walk to the shops even though we would be living on top of a mountain (whilst at the same time being in the middle of the city and on a quiet spot by the beach).
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I like this. I may well steal it.

Though I am reminded of the case of Cosmic Planning Consultants v Rosenberg Research Foundation.
 
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ceptimus said:
Who made that rule? Did I get the chance to vote on it?

The answers are: "The EU", and "No."

Anyway, we know that's the EU's current position, and that's why we're leaving.
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Did you vote on:
1. The 2016 "extreme surveillance" laws in the UK?
2. The scrapping of the UK's Human Rights Act?
3. The introduction of 28 day detention without trial?
4. The introduction of same sex marriage in the UK?
.... et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

The answer, by the way, is no.
 
ceptimus said:
Ebay / Paypal: You can buy and sell things, and also transfer money to each other.

UK: Great!

Ebay / Paypal: Oh, and also you have to let people come and live in your house if they want to.

UK: Hmmm... Don't think we'll be using you after all.
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What has this drivel to to do with the EU and/or Brexit?
 
catsmate said:
And expects the EU to then hand them more cake. With whipped cream. And custard. And chocolate ice cream And a few mini-Flakes stuck in...
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Made with a jelly made from unicorn tears
 
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