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Giordano said:
Exactly, I give him all the credit that is due- credit for a statement made only after 2 days of intense pressure and public embarrassment, and only after having ignored multiple obvious opportunities to make such a statement earlier.

I am glad he ultimately did say that racism is evil. Okay (and who would have thought a year ago that we would be relieved when a POTUS finally made such a statement?). But it is very hard not to conclude that Trump was not exactly enthusiastic about it, and that his slow response indicates something very questionable as to his private views.
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Nah, I think the only reason he's expected to say it is because he's Trump.
 
I liked JK Rowling's response to Trump's first comment on the attacks

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uke2se said:
This was politically motivated violence in order to harm and intimidate. That's terrorism. Terrorism doesn't require conspiracy.
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Pretty pathetic if this is the best you can muster. Motive is essential to even the broadest definition of terrorism, and I'm sorry to report that even racially motivated violence is not necessarily terrorist (see for instance a garden-variety hate crime). By your standard, such as it is, the nut who shot up Republicans on the baseball diamond was a terrorist.

I am not saying the action in question was certainly not terrorism. I am simply saying humans are predictably impulsive and stupid. They're also tribal.
 
Cain said:
Pretty pathetic if this is the best you can muster. Motive is essential to even the broadest definition of terrorism, and I'm sorry to report that even racially motivated violence is not necessarily terrorist (see for instance a garden-variety hate crime). By your standard, such as it is, the nut who shot up Republicans on the baseball diamond was a terrorist.

I am not saying the action in question was certainly not terrorism. I am simply saying humans are predictably impulsive and stupid. They're also tribal.
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It would mean most spree shooters and mass shooters are not terrorists.
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but my estimation of Trump is low enough to be improved, however marginally, by him eventually capitulating and doing the right thing. "Too little, too late" is still better than nothing and it's more than I expected of him.

So you know what? Good job, Donnie. Hopefully you won't need to be shamed into it next time.
 
Beelzebuddy said:
I don't know about the rest of you, but my estimation of Trump is low enough to be improved, however marginally, by him eventually capitulating and doing the right thing. "Too little, too late" is still better than nothing and it's more than I expected of him.

So you know what? Good job, Donnie. Hopefully you won't need to be shamed into it next time.
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You should really know better then to think that statement was sincere.
You are playing right into's Trump's hand pal.
Thought you were less nieve then that.
 
BobTheCoward said:
Correct. If it isn't in service of a political goal, it isn't terrorism.
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How is it not in service of a political goal? There's no requirement for it to be some grand political scheme, "I'm gonna kill me some political opponents because that seems a good thing to do to me right now" is also a political goal.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
I didn't say, nor wished to imply, praise.

I said credit.

There's a difference.
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dudalb said:
The problem is that he said it 48 hours after he should said it,and obviously did do under pressure,and said it in a way totally lacking in conviction.
Are you really that dense, or are you looking for any excuse to let Trumpy off the hook.
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I also want to know how much credit we can rescind from him for attacking Ken Frazier for stepping down due to Trump's inadequate response to the violence.

Now that Ken Frazier of Merck Pharma has resigned from President’s Manufacturing Council, he will have more time to LOWER RIPOFF DRUG PRICES!
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in response to this statement

“Our country’s strength stems from its diversity and the contributions made by men and women of different faiths, races, sexual orientations, and political beliefs,”

“America’s leaders must honor our fundamental values by clearly rejecting expressions of hatred, bigotry, and group supremacy, which run counter to the American ideal that all people are created equal.”
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