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BobTheCoward said:
Even if you go looking for violence, you are still the victim if you are the victim of it.
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No, you aren't. You are enjoying the consequences of your efforts. It would be like a boxer complaining that he was punched by his opponent in the ring.
 
Checkmite said:
I'd like to take a moment to share this hilarious photographic record of Richard Spencer being arrested at today's event:

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LOL. #RichardSpencerMyNextBeatDown
 
thaiboxerken said:
No, you aren't. You are enjoying the consequences of your efforts. It would be like a boxer complaining that he was punched by his opponent in the ring.
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Of course the boxer can complain about being punched in the face. There is no magic that stops that.
 
sonofthor said:
Nope! They are both equally cancer. I'll be glad to punch both...at the same time!
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Delphic Oracle said:
The only difference is marketing.

They both have no tolerance for ideological diversity or freedom of thought and both have no problem committing violence to enforce the version they want.

Do you think the world antifa want to build is going to be some shining bastion of equality and unlimited human potential?
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You're both creating a false equivalence.

There is a major difference. The AntiFa hate people because of what they are, the Alt-Right Nazis etc, hate people because of who they are.

Let me explain.

AntiFa are against one particular ideological, Fascism. The claim that they "have no tolerance for ideological diversity or freedom of thought" on totally incorrect. They have no tolerance for those that use that ideological diversity or freedom of thought to push Fascism. AntiFa have no concerns if you want to be mainstream right-wing, libertarian, centre left or whatever, as long as you aren't supporting Fascism. If those supporting Fascism, stop doing so, then AntiFa will leave them alone. If supporters of Fascism all stopped supporting it, or at least pushing for it openly and at the highest levels of Government, AntiFa would collapse and go away too. The things that AntiFa is against is something that people chose to be, it is what they are.

The likes of the Alt-Right, KKK, Neo-Nazis, White Nationalists.... Thy hate people who are different to them, for how they were born. No-one chose to be born a Jew, or Black, or Gay, or Hispanic, but they are targeted for these things despite having no control over it. The Alt-Right truly does not tolerance ideological diversity or freedom of thought, they expect everyone to do and say the things they declare to be acceptable based on their one ideological, and if you don't follow them sand their beliefs, you are a target to be attacked and destroyed. They attack and hate people for who they are, who they were born. As long as there are non-white people, gay people, or people that refuse to support the Alt-Right cause, then they will be hated.

If you can't see the difference in hating a person because of the political ideology they have chosen to push and hating someone because of who they are born, well then you have a problem.
 
Checkmite said:
I'd like to take a moment to share this hilarious photographic record of Richard Spencer being arrested at today's event:

[qimg]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHC8xr_WAAMm3bz.jpg[/qimg]
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Is a Richard Spencer a new type of fecal matter?????:jaw-dropp
 
PhantomWolf said:
You're both creating a false equivalence.

There is a major difference. The AntiFa hate people because of what they are, the Alt-Right Nazis etc, hate people because of who they are.

Let me explain.

AntiFa are against one particular ideological, Fascism. The claim that they "have no tolerance for ideological diversity or freedom of thought" on totally incorrect. They have no tolerance for those that use that ideological diversity or freedom of thought to push Fascism. AntiFa have no concerns if you want to be mainstream right-wing, libertarian, centre left or whatever, as long as you aren't supporting Fascism. If those supporting Fascism, stop doing so, then AntiFa will leave them alone. If supporters of Fascism all stopped supporting it, or at least pushing for it openly and at the highest levels of Government, AntiFa would collapse and go away too. The things that AntiFa is against is something that people chose to be, it is what they are.

The likes of the Alt-Right, KKK, Neo-Nazis, White Nationalists.... Thy hate people who are different to them, for how they were born. No-one chose to be born a Jew, or Black, or Gay, or Hispanic, but they are targeted for these things despite having no control over it. The Alt-Right truly does not tolerance ideological diversity or freedom of thought, they expect everyone to do and say the things they declare to be acceptable based on their one ideological, and if you don't follow them sand their beliefs, you are a target to be attacked and destroyed. They attack and hate people for who they are, who they were born. As long as there are non-white people, gay people, or people that refuse to support the Alt-Right cause, then they will be hated.

If you can't see the difference in hating a person because of the political ideology they have chosen to push and hating someone because of who they are born, well then you have a problem.
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Good explanation of AntiFa up there!!!!! Kind of Anti I am pro!!!!!
 
BobTheCoward said:
Of course the boxer can complain about being punched in the face. There is no magic that stops that.
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You like to take things literally just to "win" arguments, no matter how silly it looks.

Yes, they can complain, but their complaints are stupid and hold no value.
 
fuelair said:
Good explanation of AntiFa up there!!!!! Kind of Anti I am pro!!!!!
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I agree with PhantomWolf as well.

Antifa has a great message, a good motive. They are just dumb to think that violence will help get the message out there. Non-violence is more powerful than their violent methodology. They are misguided.

Alt-right, Nazi, White Nationalists have an evil message that is, in itself, one of violence and divisiveness. They are scumbags.
 
mgidm86 said:
In this video the car heads fast straight down the street and appears to miss all the people when he could have gone up the sidewalk and hit plenty, and then slams straight into the ca
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Oh for pity's sake. Get over it. The guy ran people down on purpose, so what he didn't go for the smaller targets to the side, he was aiming for the intersection with marchers in it.

The license plate of this car says GODKP*E (where * = I don't know). I thought this was the driver's car earlier and assumed it was a nationalist because of the god reference (so sue me), so now I wonder if it still has anything to do with it. Maybe the car was the target, then he ran over the people while fleeing?
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That is the car that was hit, not the car that did the hitting.
 
sonofthor said:
BREAKING NEWS and GREEEEAAAAAAAT News!! The FBI Appears to be Targeting Antifa Members and Associates. The Government Crackdown is Coming, but Will They Go Out in Peace or Pieces?

https://sisypheannews.com/2017/08/10/fbi-targeting-antifa-the-incoming-government-crackdown/
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Who are you? I see you've been a member for years but I've not seen many of your posts.

Here is how your source labels itself:
Sisyphean News, Exposing Antifa and Working Against the Mainstream Media
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Doesn't add much to the site's cred.
 
Vehicle aside, CNN's website is carrying a small photo of the alleged driver. While it's not definitive of course, the fellow's hairdo is distinctive enough perhaps to serve as a predictor of his sympathies.
 
This obviously isn't Spencer. :rolleyes:

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thaiboxerken said:
I agree with PhantomWolf as well.

Antifa has a great message, a good motive. They are just dumb to think that violence will help get the message out there. Non-violence is more powerful than their violent methodology. They are misguided.

Alt-right, Nazi, White Nationalists have an evil message that is, in itself, one of violence and divisiveness. They are scumbags.
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I'll let it go for this thread and just say I know lots of free-thinking anarchists and love them to pieces. I've also witnessed disturbing rationalizations for ever-expanding lists of valid "enemies" ('subjecting others to wage slavery and theft of the public commons!' or shopping at a store on the day they don't want you to) and criticism or objections to their methods is a good way to get there. Like any ideology, there is a militant fringe.

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chrispy said:
I just can't believe that we are typing these things about the *********** PRESIDENT OF THE *********** UNITED STATES :mad:

Bannon, Gorka, Miller, hell, Trump himself. How the **** did we get Nazis in the White House?

ETA I Know how, just can't believe it still....
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Godwin violation reported.
 
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