Merged A God of Love / The Living God

[Craig4]

Yep. After that they tried to certify me to put me right out of town. The reason was that they could not get me in jail because I was obeying the court order.

But unfortunately the impartial "outsider doctor" that had to confirm with the "insiders" didn't want to go through with this. He told me he is definitely not going to risk his job.

But what you also need to see is that the court order came after me obeying the "verbal house arrest". At that stage I was already obediently sitting in my flat for 30 days.

Another thing you should see is that the house arrests came after I obeyed the authority by not looking at the children.

And then another thing you should see is that the "law" to me not to look at the children came after I obeyed the "law" not to speak to the children anymore.

You will see the same here. I am the most obedient person alive. And I live under the most stringent laws possible.

What they didn't have a crown of thorns for you? No public flogging? It must be a bummer to be a god and the court just dispenses with you. Jesus got turned into public performance art. You just got told to leave people alone. Hardly an outcome worthy of a god.

 

[abaddon]

Seems you have a "sad story" which you call your life. My "mother and father" are also dead. And my wife gone like yours. And much more. My children also and my nation also. But unlike you that was just the shadow of the reality. The reality is God. The shadow just show that there is a reality. So having the reality I have a Husband and children. I have a family.

You have maybe just "shadow children" left. Shadow because it is to you reality but actually shadow because the sun go down soon on that too.

So here is reality. No son going down. The real family is the heavenly one. There you will be born as a child again. You will have a Father, a mother and brothers and sisters. Never to be taken from you again.

And you will not have a "sad story" again.

It is the natural order of things. There is nothing sad about it. Everyone dies. Deal with it. My wife may be gone, but I am glad to be rid of her.

However, my children are not gone, in fact I will be picking them up in a few hours. And we shall enjoy each others company. They are very real.

Your projection of your fantasy does not work.

 

[PartSkeptic]

It is the natural order of things. There is nothing sad about it. Everyone dies. Deal with it. My wife may be gone, but I am glad to be rid of her.

However, my children are not gone, in fact I will be picking them up in a few hours. And we shall enjoy each others company. They are very real.

Your projection of your fantasy does not work.

The mother of your children gone? Gone where? From this life or just gone from you?

 

[abaddon]

The mother of your children gone? Gone where? From this life or just gone from you?

Divorced.

 

[bruto]

Free from the law

Some more teaching.

About the ruling of God vs the ruling of man.

Man rules by the law. But the law is not perfect. Everywhere imperfection and lawbreaking is evident. The police cannot handle the situation. And no government can. Even the earth is destroyed by the “lawful human beings”

God does not rule by the law. He rules by the power of Love and the power of Wisdom.
Meaning there are no laws involved. And therefore there are also no punishment. Where Grace resides forgiveness manifests. There is no more punishment. Because punishment was done by God. He took the punishment by dying on the cross. This effectively removes the need for punishment.

A total freedom is created. Laws create bondage. And laws call for punishment. This is the inferior ineffective ruling of human beings. Even those creating the laws create their own bondage. But because they are void of Love they have no other alternative. They have to enforce "order" by the force of their inferior abilities. They but creation and not God.

I find your reading of religion quite bizarre. You seem to accept Biblical story of Jesus and the crucifixion, and to reject just about everything else. In the Bible God rules by laws. A lot of them, including a set that the Bible claims God himself handed to Moses inscribed on stone tablets. Did some big pieces fall out of your copy?

 

[turingtest]

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Yep as my history is showing I am not readily accepted. Actually I am mostly rejected. But so was Jesus in His time. It should not be new to you.




Same with Jesus. So again there is sacrificing on behalf of the human beings.
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But seems that Jesus who also "pretended to be God" ended in totally another sphere again.
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Jesus also ****up. That is good enough for me. He knew why He ****up and so do I.

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Now I can't help reading Johan's posts in the voice of Tom Noonan as Cain (in Robocop II)- "Jesus...had days like this."

Does this stuff make your teeth wiggle, Johan?

 

[Beady]

Yep as my history is showing I am not readily accepted. Actually I am mostly rejected. But so was Jesus in His time. It should not be new to you.

I miss the good old days, when the losers only compared themselves to Galileo, "They laughed at Galileo, too!" before telling us how deprived we were making ourselves by not buying into their elecric-powered toothpaste, or whatever.



This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[Craig4]

Yep as my history is showing I am not readily accepted. Actually I am mostly rejected. But so was Jesus in His time. It should not be new to you.

While if the whole world rejects you, the whole world is probably onto something. The problem is not likely with the whole world.

 

[Johanabrahams]

No, I'm 'struggling' because you contradict yourself. You say there is no punishment, but you also say that burning someone to death for witchcraft is a good thing because they'll be with God sooner.
You define words to mean whatever you want.
'Love' that includes wanton acts of lethal violence against the innocent is not love. Anyone who claims that is a liar or lunatic.

Actually I do not see those that turned the humans into frogs for the sake of money are "innocent".

 

[abaddon]

Actually I do not see those that turned the humans into frogs for the sake of money are "innocent".

Such people have never existed.

Nobody ever performed such a thing beyond stage illusionists.

 

[Johanabrahams]

You never had that on offer. You're just a deluded person with a protection order against you.

Look. I am giving grace to many. 1500 people in court orders against me. Even 4 institutions as well. Which include three different church organisations. On the internet banned from countless forums.

All of them living in my Grace. And now you too.

 

[abaddon]

Look. I am giving grace to many. 1500 people in court orders against me. Even 4 institutions as well. Which include three different church organisations. On the internet banned from countless forums.

All of them living in my Grace. And now you too.

Really? And this doesn't give you a hint?

 

[Johanabrahams]

What they didn't have a crown of thorns for you? No public flogging? It must be a bummer to be a god and the court just dispenses with you. Jesus got turned into public performance art. You just got told to leave people alone. Hardly an outcome worthy of a god.

Well some did try to kill me. One man attacked met with a piece of angle iron 1.5m long 50mm x 50mm x 8mm thick. He went for my head. Another attacked me with a spade. And one policeman tried to run me over with the police vehicle. If you take a look at Paul in the Bible you will see a similar phenomenon. And then similar happened to the earlier Christians. The were burnt to death, fed to the lions etc.

And all just for speaking the Truth.

Grace of God is abounding.

 

[Johanabrahams]

It is the natural order of things. There is nothing sad about it. Everyone dies. Deal with it. My wife may be gone, but I am glad to be rid of her.

That is not "good riddance". It is rather sad consequences.

However, my children are not gone, in fact I will be picking them up in a few hours. And we shall enjoy each others company.

Enjoyment without mom?

They are very real.

For now, yes.

Your projection of your fantasy does not work.

You are living in a "fantasy".

 

[abaddon]

That is not "good riddance". It is rather sad consequences.

Wrong. Life is immeasurably better now that she is removed from my life.

Enjoyment without mom?

Yup. I have no idea why you would question such a thing.

For now, yes.

WTF does that even mean?

You are living in a "fantasy".

Nope. I am living a great life. I have two kids whose company we mutually enjoy immensely, a fine home, no financial worries, loads of leisure time. These things are real.

What I lack is any belief in imaginary beings making stupid and immoral demands upon me.

 

[Craig4]

Look. I am giving grace to many. 1500 people in court orders against me. Even 4 institutions as well. Which include three different church organisations. On the internet banned from countless forums.

All of them living in my Grace. And now you too.

If that many people are against you, the problem isn't with those people.

 

[Craig4]

Well some did try to kill me. One man attacked met with a piece of angle iron 1.5m long 50mm x 50mm x 8mm thick. He went for my head. Another attacked me with a spade. And one policeman tried to run me over with the police vehicle. If you take a look at Paul in the Bible you will see a similar phenomenon. And then similar happened to the earlier Christians. The were burnt to death, fed to the lions etc.

And all just for speaking the Truth.

Grace of God is abounding.

I suspect you're lying. I mean you're telling people you're a god. You couldn't be that honest.

 

[Beady]

Look. I am giving grace to many. 1500 people in court orders against me. Even 4 institutions as well. Which include three different church organisations. On the internet banned from countless forums.

Sweet Jesus!

This signature is intended to irritate people.

 

[Johanabrahams]

Divorced.

She divorced or you both did?

 

[Johanabrahams]

Now I can't help reading Johan's posts in the voice of Tom Noonan as Cain (in Robocop II)- "Jesus...had days like this."

Does this stuff make your teeth wiggle, Johan?

Tell us more. For instance. What does "wiggle" mean to you?

A mother should know her children.