Cont: All things Trump + Russia Part 2

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WilliamSeger said:
If you don't believe that TrumpCo has lost control of the narrative even in the Fox bubble, watch Chris Wallace vs. Trump's attorney, Sekulow:

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Wow, that poor lawyer is just completely lost. He's babbling.

ETA: And he's wearing exactly the same suit and tie as he did in the previous interview. :|
 
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logger said:
Lol
Ask Patreus about criminal intent.
Too bad jr didn't work for the campaign.
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Let's take a look here.


Obstruction of Justice

Trump Jr. could find himself in trouble not just over the meeting itself, but for his shifting accounts of how it transpired. "Did I meet with people that were Russian? I’m sure, I’m sure I did,” Donald Trump Jr. told the Times in March. “But none that were set up. None that I can think of at the moment. And certainly none that I was representing the campaign in any way, shape or form.” Then he said the meeting was only about an old program involving American adoptions of Russian children. Then he admitted he invited both campaign manager Paul Manafort and top campaign aide Jared Kushner to sit in on the meeting knowing they would discuss information about Clinton. Lying to the public or the media is generally not a crime, thanks to the broad free speech protections of the First Amendment. But if Trump Jr. provides shifting or untruthful explanations to the investigators probing links between the Trump campaign and Russia, he could be charged with providing false statements or obstructing justice, both of which are crimes.
http://time.com/4854592/donald-trump-jr-russia-email-laws/
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Argumemnon said:
Wow, that poor lawyer is just completely lost. He's babbling.
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Don't feel too sorry for him, he was a bit evasive about it, but he seemed to suggest that Trump wasn't directly responsible for paying his fees, which probably means that he will get paid.
 
Argumemnon said:
Wow, that poor lawyer is just completely lost. He's babbling.

ETA: And he's wearing exactly the same suit and tie as he did in the previous interview. :|
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Using my invisible ink reader, I see "STUPID" written on the forehead of Trump's lawyer.
 
WilliamSeger said:
If you don't believe that TrumpCo has lost control of the narrative even in the Fox bubble, watch Chris Wallace vs. Trump's attorney, Sekulow:

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Sekulow dropped an even more interesting tidbit in an interview with Jonathan Karl.

Although he claimed that the president did not know about or participate in the meeting — which was attended by Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort — Sekulow suggested on ABC’s This Week that it could not have been really bad or else the agents would have stopped it.

“I wondered why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why did the Secret Service allow these people in?” Sekulow told ABC’s Jonathan Karl. “The president had Secret Service protection at that point. That raised a question with me.”
In November 2015, then-Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson approved Secret Service protection for then-candidates Donald Trump and Ben Carson. The agency protects “[m]ajor presidential and vice presidential candidates and their spouses,” as well as the president, vice president, their immediate families, and visiting foreign heads of state and their spouses. As such, Trump and his wife Melania were being protected at the time of the meeting.

But at that point, the Secret Service was not protecting any of the Trump campaign representatives who actually attended. Only in September 2016 — well after the Russian visit — did agents begin to provided protection for Ivanka Trump. Prior to that, Trump’s adult children were only provided with protection when “physically near the candidate,” according to a contemporaneous ABC News report. Separate protection for Eric Trump and Donald Jr. came sometime after that.
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Stacko said:
Sekulow dropped an even more interesting tidbit in an interview with Jonathan Karl.
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Secret Service confirms Fredo was not under their protection at the time of the meeting.

"Well, I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in. The president had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me," Jay Sekulow, a member of Trump's legal team, said on Sunday on the ABC news program "This Week."

In an emailed response to questions about Sekulow's comments, Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman said that the younger Trump was not under Secret Service protection at the time of the June 2016 meeting that included Trump's son and two senior campaign officials.

"Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time," the emailed statement said.
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Argumemnon said:
Well, if there's one thing we know, it's that the GOP and their supporters sure know there was something wrong with the meeting, if they're both trying to play it down _and_ blame other people for it.
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They might have accidently let us know the daddy was there. The Secret Service gripe would make sense in that case because of his presence but we're dealing with serial liars so who knows at this point.
 
Lies after lies from the Trump family and Trump's lawyer to cover-up Trump Jr.'s Russia meeting scandal.

Warner: 'Unbelievable' Trump wasn't told about meeting

Washington (CNN)The top Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee said Sunday he did not believe no one told President Donald Trump about a meeting last year between top members of his campaign and a Russian lawyer.

Virginia Sen. Mark Warner said in an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" that he wanted to question everyone involved in the meeting as part of the committee's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Trump Jr., in a statement, initially described the meeting as primarily about adoption policy before conceding in a subsequent statement that he had agreed to the meeting in the hope he might get damaging information on Clinton
http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/16/politics/mark-warner-jay-sekulow-donald-trump-jr/index.html
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Trump is not doing very well these days.


Donald Trump approval rating at 70-year low as Russia scandal swirls

Donald Trump’s approval rating has plunged in a national poll, published on Sunday, that charts Americans’ perceptions of a stalling domestic policy agenda and declining leadership on the world stage.

The Washington Post/ABC News poll, which put Trump’s six-month approval rating at a historic 70-year low, came amid mounting controversy over Russian interference in the 2016 election.

It emerged on Saturday that Trump’s campaign committee made a payment to the legal firm representing the president’s eldest son almost two weeks before a meeting between Trump Jr and a Russian lawyer promising compromising information on Hillary Clinton was made public.

Trump now has a 36% approval rating, down six points from his first 100 days’ rating. The poll found that 48% believed America’s leadership in the world is weaker than before the billionaire took office, while support for Republican plans to replace Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act was at just 24% compared with 50% who support the former president’s signature healthcare policy.

Trump, who has spent the weekend at his private golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, attempted to downplay the poll’s findings. On Sunday morning he used Twitter to claim, incorrectly, that “almost 40% [approval] is not bad at this time” and that the poll in question had been “just about the most inaccurate around election time!”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...00-to-trump-jrs-lawyer-before-emails-released
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On June 16, 2017, the Trump-supporting Rasmussen poll had Trump at 50% approval rating and Trump proclaimed it "great news", but since then, Trump's rating in the Rasmussen polls continued to plunge.
 
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logger said:
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Trump jr can meet with whoever he likes, he's not part of the admin. Sorry you have nothing, as usual.
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You are incorrect so don't expect me to believe it with a straight face.:D

Let's read the following together because Trump Jr. was clearly soliciting information that he knew was coming from a foreign source.


52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510

The statute in question is 52 USC 30121, 36 USC 510 — the law governing foreign contributions to US campaigns. There are two key passages that apply here. This is the first:

A foreign national shall not, directly or indirectly, make a contribution or a donation of money or other thing of value, or expressly or impliedly promise to make a contribution or a donation, in connection with any Federal, State, or local election.
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Which goes to show that you what you have claimed is false! Look what he has done to Trump Sr.

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Donald Trump approval rating at 70-year low as Russia scandal swirls
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Poor word choice.

Trump's approval rating goes back 70 years? He must have started out as a very unpopular toddler.

Sub word "presidential," that would work.

But it still doesn't totally work. Quick Googling showed historic low approval was in 1952, not 1946.

ETA: Unless it is timed to some benchmark, as graph above indicates. it's still confusing. Internet headlines are written differently than print headlines for search-engine optimization, which may be the reason for the "as Russia scandal swirls" - but to me it seems superfluous. IMO it's not Russia but the culture of lies that flourishes in Trump's inner circle.
 
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skyeagle409 said:
You are incorrect so don't expect me to believe it with a straight face.:D

Let's read the following together because Trump Jr. was clearly soliciting information that he knew was coming from a foreign source.





Which goes to show that you what you have claimed is false! Look what he has done to Trump Sr.
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Thing of value? Who determines that this non information has value. He was quite vague in these emails, it's clear he was interested in what she had to say. He didn't even know her name. You've got nothing.

The statute you are referring to doesn't have the broad terms your side would like to pin on it. You've simply got nothing. Trump is going to survive, he's going to continue to clean out the deep state, he's going to continue policies i and the right agree with and he's going to continue to appoint judges who are from the right.

You and other leftists have nothing. ;)
 
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