Happy 70th UFO Anniversary!

[skyeagle409]

I'm gonna sit.

The endless walls of text and pictures have made me tired.

Very tired.

There's much more because there are over 120,000 UFO reports to examine.

 

[quadraginta]

There's much more because there are over 120,000 UFO reports to examine.

That's an amazing amount of disinformation.

Of course, if they've been working on it since all the aliens left I guess they've had plenty of time.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Has the design of the Minuteman been altered to reflect this vulnerability?

Let's just say that in some cases, the saucers have brought the world to the edge of a nuclear war as was the case where the Soviets lost total control of their strategic missiles as they went into launch mode as they reported a saucer hovering over their base.

Link, please.

In other cases, the saucers disabled our Minuteman missiles, which is where my base came in, that is, in regard to the investigations where the missiles were disabled as saucers hovered over the missile fields.

Yes, you said that already. My question still stands: was the design of the Minuteman missile changed? Was it withdrawn from service? Are all other military missiles similarly vulnerable, and if they are, why are they still being used?

Actually, there have been cases where UFOs have landed.





Speaking of Lt. Col. Lewis D. Chase, he was the pilot whose bomber was involved in another incident where his RB-47 was chased by a UFO over multiple states. The aircraft's onboard ELINT systems and ground-based radar tracked the UFO as it chased his aircraft.

UFO Chase RB-47 Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBBA3gkZTc

I note the word 'alleged'. Any actual evidence for this supposed landing?

 

[arthwollipot]

When I saw the saucer, I knew it wasn't ours because we didn't have a saucer capable of high speed flight.

That you know of. Why do you assume that you have complete knowledge of what "we" do and don't have?

 

[skyeagle409]

That's an amazing amount of disinformation.

Let's call it reality. In one case, one of America's top engineers confirmed to me personally that UFOs have been tracked by DSP satellites he developed at Aerojet.

 

[skyeagle409]

Link, please.
Yes, you said that already. My question still stands: was the design of the Minuteman missile changed?

Engineering changes were devised to the system and TCTO's called upon, but there were no malfunctions found within the systems despite investigations from defense contractors. As noted, the only way those missiles could have been knocked off-line was from an electromagnetic pulse from outside the shielded cables. In other words, the EMP was found to have been generated externally, and having nothing to do with the missile system. The Boeing tech rep at my base had said that the original incident was being reported as a "UFO incident" due to the fact that no malfunctions were found within the system and that at the time of the missile shutdowns, security personnel reported a saucer hovering over the area.

In 1975, the UFOs returned and interceptors were launched. One of the UFOs was captured on radar but radar contact was lost after the object climbed about 200,000 feet. In regard to the link you have requested involving Soviet missiles, here is the link.

Soviet nukes and UFOs

http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Kapustin-Yar-doc.jpg

It sounds like a tabloid headline, but the question is a valid one: Did UFOs almost trigger an accidental nuclear war in 1982? The incident in question occurred in south-central Ukraine on the evening of October 4th, according to official depositions from Soviet military units and interviews with one of the officers in charge of the investigation. There were multiple witnesses to the event, which took place between 7:30 and 9:37 pm, and many of them were Soviet military officers and personnel stationed at a long-range nuclear missile base in Usovo, near Byelokovoriche.

http://www.openminds.tv/soviet-nukes-and-ufos/2002

 

[skyeagle409]

That you know of. Why do you assume that you have complete knowledge of what "we" do and don't have?

I know much more than you think. We didn't have the capability to build and fly manned saucers at high speed because we didn't have the computer power to stabilize a saucer in high speed flight due to the unstable nature of its center-of-gravity much less fly a saucer at 9000+ mph within earth's atmosphere without generating a sonic boom.

 

[skyeagle409]

I note the word 'alleged'. Any actual evidence for this supposed landing?

We can take a look here.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_PXeDY3KOw...essage+UFO+Landing+Bolt+Montana+March+1967+(A)


I would also like to add that UFO landings are nothing new. In the following photo, it was determined the UFO that landed in New Mexico weighed roughly 8 tons based on the evidence left behind.

http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/images/c3aa844786c51db635bc54cb39caf711.jpg

The initial investigation. Left to right: Sgt. Lonnie Zamora, Mr. Burns (FBI), Maj. H. Mitchell (AFMDC), Coral Lorenzen of APRO, and Sgt. Castle of the Military Police.

http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/images/6d7dd3366c43c06f8a722e4389e8f548.jpg

Photograph of one of the landing marks left by the object. Rocks are piled around the imprint to preserve it.

 

[arthwollipot]

I know much more than you think. We didn't have the capability to build and fly manned saucers at high speed because we didn't have the computer power to stabilize a saucer in high speed flight due to the unstable nature of its center-of-gravity much less fly a saucer at 9000+ mph within earth's atmosphere without generating a sonic boom.

As far as you know.

You might find that I know more than you think.

 

[Darat]

I know much more than you think. We didn't have the capability to build and fly manned saucers at high speed because we didn't have the computer power to stabilize a saucer in high speed flight due to the unstable nature of its center-of-gravity much less fly a saucer at 9000+ mph within earth's atmosphere without generating a sonic boom.

Skyeagle409 - given the prevalence of cameras these days why don't we have any footage of one of your UFOs?

We - the public - even capture things like meteors and meteorites on video, so the rarest of events are all preserved on digital cameras so why no high quality footage of UFOs?

 

[smartcooky]

The dross is strong in this one!!!

 

[theprestige]

Lol. You don't know it was an alien spacecraft. You saw a thing. You decided that it was an alien spacecraft because no other explanation made sense to you at the time.

It was a ghost. Doesn't it make at least as much sense as it being an alien spacecraft? If it moved in the way corporeal matter cannot, it makes more sense that it was an incorporeal ghost - since ghosts are not made of matter they are not subject to the universal laws of inertia.

No - that it was a ghost is the only explanation that makes sense.

The difference between ghosts and aliens is that ghosts can't cross running water.

This signature is intended to irradiate people.

 

[Tolls]

As noted, the only way those missiles could have been knocked off-line was from an electromagnetic pulse from outside the shielded cables. In other words, the EMP was found to have been generated externally, and having nothing to do with the missile system.

And?
I wouldn't expect an EMP to occur inside the missiles themselves...that would be a pretty daft build.

So we have missiles (that presumably were already to some extent hardened against EMP, and in hardened shelters) being hit by a strong enough EMP to knock them out. In other words fry their systems.

That's quite a big EMP.

Did anyone record it anywhere?

I would have expected such a large pulse to have been noticed elsewhere.

 

[carlitos]

If you had a VCR blinking at 12:00, that was aliens.

 

[smartcooky]

You whole reasoning is based on three principles.....

or

or

I know much more than you think. We didn't have the capability to build and fly manned saucers at high speed because we didn't have the computer power to stabilize a saucer in high speed flight due to the unstable nature of its center-of-gravity much less fly a saucer at 9000+ mph within earth's atmosphere without generating a sonic boom.

Evidence?

Let's call it reality. In one case, one of America's top engineers confirmed to me personally that UFOs have been tracked by DSP satellites he developed at Aerojet.

And his name? Oh of course, you can't say his name because he is afraid that Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith will bump him off

Let's just say that in some cases, the saucers have brought the world to the edge of a nuclear war as was the case where the Soviets lost total control of their strategic missiles as they went into launch mode as they reported a saucer hovering over their base.

Evidence?

Because, I saw one myself in 1968 as the object passed over my base in Vietnam, and upon my one-year deployment, I was assigned to a base that was active in cases where UFOs shutdown our Minuteman missiles.

I call BS on that. Minuteman missiles were not deployed in Vietnam.

Let's just say that I am in a position to know otherwise.

Argument from claimed authority. Show your credentials?

 

[quadraginta]

<snip>

Argument from claimed authority. Show your credentials?

Be reasonable.

You can't expect one of their top disinformation agents to expose their real identity.

 

[smartcooky]

Be reasonable.

You can't expect one of their top disinformation agents to expose their real identity.

Sorry. My bad!

 

[lpetrich]

Skyeagle409 - given the prevalence of cameras these days why don't we have any footage of one of your UFOs?

We - the public - even capture things like meteors and meteorites on video, so the rarest of events are all preserved on digital cameras so why no high quality footage of UFOs?

Yes, why not anything like this? Meteor Hits Russia Feb 15, 2013 - Event Archive - YouTube in Chelyabinsk.
It turned out to be yet another extraterrestrial rock.

This reminds me of how some UFOlogists have compared the scientific community's skepticism about UFO's to its former skepticism about meteorites. Thus comparing skepticism about extraterrestrial spaceships to skepticism about extraterrestrial rocks.

<The Meteorite Report by Jean-Baptiste Biot translated by Anne-Marie de Grazia> about the meteorite fall of 1803 April 26 in L'Aigle, France. JBB discovered that the meteorite fall had numerous witnesses and that the meteorite's fragments left a lot of physical evidence, including some of the fragments themselves. He also convincingly established the extraterrestrial origin of this meteorite.

So where is the L'Aigle of UFOlogy?

 

[Arisia]

Well, extraterrestrial rocks can't deliberately hide themselves, of course, or be in cahoots with TPTB either. Lack of evidence for extraterrestrial craft clearly means they're very good at hiding themselves, not that they're non-existent.











, just in case

 

[sackett]

Let's just say

Well, extraterrestrial rocks can't deliberately hide themselves, of course, or be in cahoots with TPTB either. Lack of evidence for extraterrestrial craft clearly means they're very good at hiding themselves, not that they're non-existent....

Damn right! Haven't these skepsheeple ever heard of cloaking?