CNN Doxxes a gif maker

[TofuFighter]

But that's a different complaint. Insensitivity to a subject someone is sensitive about is very different from racism.

And if we don't allow humor simply on the basis that somebody (or even lots of people) might be offended, well, we're adopting a heckler's veto. And that won't end well either. It's one thing to be offended, it's another to demand some sort of retribution for that offense.

I'm not disputing that. I think you're correct that the comment was not of racist intent, but can easily, and will be - as evidenced by apathoid's immediate response - construed as racist by people because it lacks context and has an ambiguous tone. And that is particularly true in South Africa where racism and AIDS are both extremely sensitive topics.

I wouldn't argue that she deserved to be fired. Her apology seems to recognise that she erred in her humour, and that looks sincere to me.

 

[NoahFence]

I don't think it's hyberbole. Peoples trust in media is already at an all-time low and as they basically fired three journalists for fake news. Then their own guys are getting caught on tape saying that Russia stuff is a bunch of ********e. What would you call it? When has a news organization had a worse week?

Fox.

 

[Ziggurat]

I really hope you don't actual believe some teens in their parents basement will "utterly destroy CNN as a viable corporation", or that would we be somehow the correct and appropriate response for trying to interview a racist, bigoted redditor.

I agree. I want CNN destroyed, but not at 4chan's hands. Their destruction should come about simply because people tune them out, since they're worthless.

 

[BobTheCoward]

But that's a different complaint. Insensitivity to a subject someone is sensitive about is very different from racism.

And if we don't allow humor simply on the basis that somebody (or even lots of people) might be offended, well, we're adopting a heckler's veto. And that won't end well either. It's one thing to be offended, it's another to demand some sort of retribution for that offense.

Her humor was allowed. She wasn't jailed or punished.

 

[The Big Dog]

A moderator over on Reddit said that the entire internet was against CNN.

He's wrong

A multibillion media conglomerate who doxxed the wrong guy has plenty of friends here!

Poor CNN!

 

[TheL8Elvis]

I agree. I want CNN destroyed, but not at 4chan's hands. Their destruction should come about simply because people tune them out, since they're worthless.

We can pretty much agree on that then

 

[Ziggurat]

Her humor was allowed. She wasn't jailed or punished.

It was allowed by government. It wasn't allowed by the braying mob. And she absolutely was punished, just not by the legal system.

 

[NoahFence]

I agree. I want CNN destroyed, but not at 4chan's hands. Their destruction should come about simply because people tune them out, since they're worthless.

 

[BobTheCoward]

It was allowed by government. It wasn't allowed by the braying mob. And she absolutely was punished, just not by the legal system.

She wasn't punished by anybody.

 

[TofuFighter]

It was allowed by government. It wasn't allowed by the braying mob. And she absolutely was punished, just not by the legal system.

Interestingly enough, Trump was on the 'braying mob' crew.
http://newscastmedia.com/justine-sacco.htm

 

[paulhutch]

What about Brendan Eich? Should he have been forced out of Mozilla for taking the same position on gay marriage as President Obama?

I wasn't aware that Obama supported repealing the already existing same sex marriage right in California and donated money to help the repeal effort. So please provide a source reference for your claim.

 

[Foolmewunz]

A moderator over on Reddit said that the entire internet was against CNN.

He's wrong

A multibillion media conglomerate who doxxed the wrong guy has plenty of friends here!

Poor CNN!

Reddit, like certain posters here and like 4chan, has an inflated idea of their clout. The "entire internet"? Sure.

 

[apathoid]

For one thing, the joke is simply funnier that way. The other way it's just stupid. The principle of charity applies.

I don't think the joke is funny either way, but I get where you're coming from. I'm an avid listener of comedy podcasts and many comedians comment on how they get attacked so often from the PC left that they won't do gigs in college towns anymore.

For another, that's basically what Sacco herself has said. "Living in America puts us in a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is going on in the third world. I was making fun of that bubble."

Thats a pretty good article. I don't think she meant any offense by the joke, but at some point we all need to have that filter that keeps us from hitting the post button after typing something like that out. Is it right? No. Will it get worse? Probably. But it's the new reality.

 

[Ziggurat]

Interestingly enough, Trump was on the 'braying mob' crew.
http://newscastmedia.com/justine-sacco.htm

Which should give some of his critics pause before they imitate him.

But probably won't.

 

[apathoid]

Interestingly enough, Trump was on the 'braying mob' crew.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

 

[NoahFence]

I don't think it's hyberbole. Peoples trust in media is already at an all-time low and as they basically fired three journalists for fake news. Then their own guys are getting caught on tape saying that Russia stuff is a bunch of ********e. What would you call it? When has a news organization had a worse week?

If you don't want to be confused with being a far-right Trump supporter perhaps you should refrain from using their terminology, especially when it's wrong.


They weren't fired for "fake news" they simply got something wrong, ran with the story before it was confirmed and then paid the price for doing that.

The rational brain would then conclude that CNN is MORE trustworthy. The rational brain would say that CNN is fixing the problem.

 

[apathoid]

What would you expect after months and months of our president whining like a little bitch about the media?

The poll was from September 2016.

Maybe for ***** and giggles, he should try being an honest and decent human being. See if anything changes.

The poll is about trust in the reporting of the media, not the trust of Trump but I saw something about that as well. I'll see if I can find it.

 

[Belz...]

The rational brain would then conclude that CNN is MORE trustworthy. The rational brain would say that CNN is fixing the problem.

Pfft. The rational brain is puny compared to the partisan brain!

 

[apathoid]

If you don't want to be confused with being a far-right Trump supporter perhaps you should refrain from using their terminology, especially when it's wrong.

They weren't fired for "fake news" they simply got something wrong, ran with the story before it was confirmed and then paid the price for doing that.

Fake news is fake news. Sorry you don't like that moniker but its an accurate description in this case. I expect a lot better reporting from mainstream media than we are getting. The poll I linked shows that 70% of independents and 86% of Republicans feel the same way. If CNN wants to convince us we're wrong, this creepy stalker ********e they are pulling here ain't the right way to start. We deserve better than CNN and we deserve better than Fox.

The rational brain would then conclude that CNN is MORE trustworthy. The rational brain would say that CNN is fixing the problem.

Nope, CNN incessantly beating this retarded Russia drum isn't fixing the problem. Its dividing the country and souring our relations with Russia.

 

[The Big Dog]

“How are your children now? You think a lot of them, don’t you? You have a nice little family, haven’t you? Wouldn’t it be a pity if anything happened to break it up?”

CNN's new motto