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Merged A God of Love / The Living God

Zivan said:
You are not making sense. As usual.
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Yep . .humans cannot understand God. But God can give understanding.

Zivan said:
First you say the "god sacrifice" was so everyone can have perfect relationships. Then you say that everyone is fighting everyone even after the alleged "god sacrifice".
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Yep . . .perfect relationships has arrived now here also. I am here to create that.


Zivan said:
And why does god, or you since you think you are god, need blood and gore to "forgive" anyone? That is beyond barbaric.
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You also need that Blood. Without it you will be stuck in your "imperfect" situation.

Love Johan
 
Craig4 said:
You're free to judge me as you like.
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Nope . . .as I said . . .I will not do that. The sacrifice is for God to be able to forgive and not judge anymore.

Craig4 said:
Your judgment holds no consequence for me and your assent of my sins holds no interest.
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Yep it does. You are used to it. And now there is none with me. You will have to accept this now.

Craig4 said:
I don't recognize the concept of sin and you're in no position to forgive me or hold me to account.
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You do now . . .and you also realize now that I forgive you for it.

And you realize that because of my forgiveness my love is also real to you which is more than you can say.



Craig4 said:
As to my motivations, you came to a skeptic's forum and claimed to be a god. Your claim is baseless so what did you think would happen?
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You see. That is all you can say. Just taking me on because of an opportunity to show your correct judgment of me being a liar. I forgive you.




Craig4 said:
As for your love, your love of me or your hate are the same thing to me. I'm impacted by neither.
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You see. It does not even matter to you that I love you. And it does not even matter to you that you do not love me. I do not matter to you. Only you matter to yourself. And you are going to exalt yourself now in showing everybody how "foolish" I am and how "superior" you are.

Now I know what your motivation are. Obviously it is lesser than mine. I am just your "showcase" and opportunity to exalt yourself. An opportunity to make yourself god. . . .ruling me . . .I being your slave . . serving you . . to realize your ambitions.

I forgive you.

I still love you.

Your loving slave . . .Johan

Ps. Actually I am your "loving mother". This way you will better understand my reactions. Just to help you. . . as a mother does.
 
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Johanabrahams said:
Nope . . .as I said . . .I will not do that. The sacrifice is for God to be able to forgive and not judge anymore.



Yep it does. You are used to it. And now there is none with me. You will have to accept this now.



You do now . . .and you also realize now that I forgive you for it.

And you realize that because of my forgiveness my love is also real to you which is more than you can say.





You see. That is all you can say. Just taking me on because of an opportunity to show your correct judgment of me being a liar. I forgive you.






You see. It does not even matter to you that I love you. And it does not even matter to you that you do not love me. I do not matter to you. Only you matter to yourself. And you are going to exalt yourself now in showing everybody how "foolish" I am and how "superior" you are.

Now I know what your motivation are. Obviously it is lesser than mine. I am just your "showcase" and opportunity to exalt yourself. An opportunity to make yourself god. . . .ruling me . . .I being your slave . . serving you . . to realize your ambitions.

I forgive you.

I still love you.

Your loving slave . . .Johan

Ps. Actually I am your "loving mother". This way you will better understand my reactions. Just to help you. . . as a mother does.
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How could you possibly conclude that either your love or forgiveness are a) real to me or b) matter?

As for being my mother, my mother is dead and I'm not in the market for a replacement. You've created a grand escapist fantasy because you can't get your real life in order. Let's not pretend there is any godliness in you and spare me your sick false piety.
 
abaddon said:
Thousand year reign? Nope. Daniel prophesied no such thing, and according to the babble, that happened and finished a thousand years ago.
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You show us now your understanding . . which does not exist. You do not understand scripture because only God can reveal it to you. And here it is now.

That thousand years are passed now. It is judgment now.

And here is your judgment.

For 2 thousand years you could have lived in peace. You never found it. You lived in "lack of peace". And here is the good news. You can change. Only problem is you. You might prevent yourself in your pride and ignorance to find that peace.

So you will reject the Blood of Christ. That is final judgment. Then you will stay in your present state . . .living in a live void of godliness.

But as for me. I will not enter there.

I will still love you.

Love Johan
 
Czarcasm said:
I've been gone for a few years, so could someone please tell me, out of the thousands of gods/goddesses/godits that people believe in, which particular deity are we discussing in this thread?
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The only one . . .existing.

Of whom the evidence is here.

I am His child.

Love Johan
 
Johanabrahams said:
You show us now your understanding . . which does not exist. You do not understand scripture because only God can reveal it to you. And here it is now.

That thousand years are passed now. It is judgment now.

And here is your judgment.

For 2 thousand years you could have lived in peace. You never found it. You lived in "lack of peace". And here is the good news. You can change. Only problem is you. You might prevent yourself in your pride and ignorance to find that peace.

So you will reject the Blood of Christ. That is final judgment. Then you will stay in your present state . . .living in a live void of godliness.

But as for me. I will not enter there.

I will still love you.

Love Johan
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What a load of bollocks. Be careful. I know a lot more than you realise.
 
jimbob said:
When I started, I was amused by the tags people earned, which is why I requested a special one for me.

I wouldn't be offended if the OP requested it as well.
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Well . . as I am a child of God . . I will request of you nothing less than your live.

But in its place of course . . .a better one. As I am a mother I have ability to give birth.

Love Johan
 
Johanabrahams said:
Because of sin.
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Again, so?

If God is omnipotent, and wants to forgive sins he can simply forgive sin without the sacrifice.

In this case a more powerful individual should do what a lesser powerful can not do.
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It does not follow then that if God wanted to forgive his followers that it was a requirement that God sacrifice himself to himself.

He already had the power to forgive.

In the Truth He is God Himself.
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Whatever definition of Trinitarianism you care to use, God is sacrificing himself to himself so that he would do what he wanted to do, and had the power to do.

Yep. That is now . . .godly forgiveness. Which obviously includes much more than human forgiveness.
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Forgiveness is forgiveness.

If it comes with strings attached, it is not forgiveness.

Because He also needed it. And people needed it. Without it there is no peace.

Now true peace can materialize. And I am now here to do that.

Create true peace . . .that is now for starters.

Love Johan
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Why did god need it? He had the power (if you believe he is omnipotent) and he had the desire.
 
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