Corbyn's days (very) numbered?

[Darat]

Strange isn't it - he has just lost an election yet his position has been strengthened!

 

[lupus_in_fabula]

Indeed.

Surely a lesson for the Blairites, should they have the sense to recognize it as such?

 

[lionking]

Figuring you wouldn't have encountered the same kind of smear campaign by the press as Corbyn, you really could have become PM as well.

As well? Corbyn will not become PM.

 

[MikeG]

Corbyn will not become PM.

Ever.

 

[lionking]

Ever.

I will take a lot of perverse pleasure in watching Jeremy take on Boris next election. Two world class clowns.

 

[lupus_in_fabula]

As well? Corbyn will not become PM.

Ah, sorry (lapsus).

But considering the starting point before the elections, all that talk about "unelectability" turned out to be nonsense (as suspected).

 

[3point14]

wrong thread.

 

[Tolls]

Ah, sorry (lapsus).

But considering the starting point before the elections, all that talk about "unelectability" turned out to be nonsense (as suspected).

Well, he's not PM...so "unelectable" still stands.

Considering how poor May was during the campaign, not losing by a massive margin really isn't anything to crow about.

 

[lupus_in_fabula]

Well, he's not PM...so "unelectable" still stands.

Considering how poor May was during the campaign, not losing by a massive margin really isn't anything to crow about.

Are you suggesting unelectability should be defined in the trivial ex post sense, where every other party leader except the one winning is always deemed to be (or have been) unelectable?

 

[JihadJane]

Well, he's not PM...so "unelectable" still stands.

Considering how poor May was during the campaign, not losing by a massive margin really isn't anything to crow about.

Immediately the broadcast media were obliged to present balanced reporting (one month before election) labour's ratings shot up. The UK is a flawed democracy dominated by an extreme right-wing media propaganda machine.

 

[baron]

Immediately the broadcast media were obliged to present balanced reporting (one month before election) labour's ratings shot up. The UK is a flawed democracy dominated by an extreme right-wing media propaganda machine.

The BBC extreme right wing!

 

[Architect]

Right wing? No.

Balanced? Not fully.

So you're both wrong.

 

[baron]

Right wing? No.

Balanced? Not fully.

So you're both wrong.

If "Right wing no" then I'm right, by your own definition, not wrong.

 

[Tolls]

Are you suggesting unelectability should be defined in the trivial ex post sense, where every other party leader except the one winning is always deemed to be (or have been) unelectable?

Uh, no.

it means that Corbyn has been marked as unelectable (because he's frankly pants), and the election result does not change that since he has failed to be elected.

 

[Matthew Best]

Uh, no.

it means that Corbyn has been marked as unelectable (because he's frankly pants), and the election result does not change that since he has failed to be elected.

Who's the alternative that would do better?

 

[Worm]

Corbyn was elected. He won his seat by a sizeable majority.

He is not PM - but we don't elect them.

 

[Tolls]

Who's the alternative that would do better?

No idea.
We seem to be in a period of political non-entities, frankly.

 

[lupus_in_fabula]

Who's the alternative that would do better?

Perhaps someone who would have lifted the whole party share by more than 10 % during one election?

Never mind Corbyn just having had be largest upswing since 1945!

 

[JihadJane]

The BBC extreme right wing!

The BBC is an establishment mouthpiece. The current Conservative administration is to the right of Thatcher's and it controls the BBC, with self-confessed conservatives in top positions in the ruling hierarchy and in the news department, which has taken to broadcasting politically motivated lies. In the lead-up to the election it has shown a consistently right wing bias, giving disproportionate air-time, for example, to the tiny, quasi-fascist UKIP, a party now reabsorbed in the Conservative party.

Research confirms its extreme bias

"The researchers' quantitative analysis of BBC News at Six shows that critics of Corbyn were given twice as much airtime as his supporters, and that the issues mobilised by his critics were given much greater prominence. The researchers also noted the pejorative language BBC reporters used to describe Jeremy Corbyn, his team and his supporters."

 

[Antonio Coceri]

Today I had a look at some past comments about Corbyn
Quite funny, indeed

Good riddence. I'm a Labour supporter (Labor in Oz) through and through. But an unelectable leader is, well, unelectable.

I'd say that the problem is: The Labour membership have retreated into their comfort zone and until they are willing to leave their safe space and venture into unpleasantness of electoral reality they will continue to fail at being an effective opposition.

There are no doubt people who would appeal to the general public more than Corbyn (or perhaps turn them off less) but they aren't acceptable to the Old Labour and Momentum loyalists.

The only geniunely popular Labour Party politician is Ed Balls - thanks to his performance on Strictly Come Dancing and he says he's not interested.

Agreed. Labour has one last choice between oblivion under Corbyn or relevance under anyone else.

I'm not even convinced that Corbyn wants to win a general election.

ETA.........just to be clear, the first two of those quotes in your post above are not my words, but those of the Daily Mirror.

..and so on..

Looks like people here were off a mile or so