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Official James Comey testimony thread

I don't know about y'all but like McCain, I also want to know what "that thing" was.
 
ahhell said:
I don't know about y'all but like McCain, I also want to know what "that thing" was.
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My interpretation was that Trump considered the "honest loyalty" bit to be thier little deal. Of course that's just in context of the detail Comey provided, so chances are that I'm entirely wrong.

Let me ask this then... why won't Trump tell us what 'that thing' is/was? Now there's an explanation I'd like to hear. The only escape from that is to deny he ever said it.


General question... given his body language, lack of notes, detailed, unhesitant and consistent responses, do you think Comey came off appearing dishonest?
 
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Cleon said:
That's the sort of thing Trump might pull, but I can't see McCain doing it. He's just not that sort of political stuntman.
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And McCain has no love for Donald Trump. I think it was just a case that McCain was not at his best today.
 
TofuFighter said:
General question... given his body language, lack of notes, detailed, unhesitant and consistent responses, do you think Comey came off appearing dishonest?
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I think one would have to be exceptionally dumb/partisan to think that James Comey is more dishonest than Donald Trump. Especially since there are contemporaneous memos. One would have to assume that the FBI director decided early on to destroy Trump with lies.
 
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dudalb said:
And McCain has no love for Donald Trump. I think it was just a case that McCain was not at his best today.
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I think it's a case of McCain not being able to keep track of who he wants to attack on any particular day.

I truly don't understand why anyone (outside of his friends and family) likes McCain at all. He hasn't been trustworthy (to either Republicans or Democrats) for a very long time, and if he's going senile it should make him more pitiable, not more likable.
 
Tony Stark said:
I think one would have to be exceptionally dumb/partisan to think that James Comey is more dishonest than Donald Trump. Especially since there are contemptuous memos. One would have to assume that the FBI director decided early on to destroy Trump with lies.
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I suspect that you meant to write contemporaneous, but yours probably reflects the feelings of a lot of people who have dealt with Trump.
 
Babbylonian said:
I think it's a case of McCain not being able to keep track of who he wants to attack on any particular day.

I truly don't understand why anyone (outside of his friends and family) likes McCain at all. He hasn't been trustworthy (to either Republicans or Democrats) for a very long time, and if he's going senile it should make him more pitiable, not more likable.
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I tried to get rid of the guy. Unfortunately most people in my state disagreed.
 
jimbob said:
I suspect that you meant to write contemporaneous, but yours probably reflects the feelings of a lot of people who have dealt with Trump.
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That is indeed what I meant. Dumb Samsung auto correct (and my own poor spelling).
 
TofuFighter said:
General question... given his body language, lack of notes, detailed, unhesitant and consistent responses, do you think Comey came off appearing dishonest?
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No, doesn't say whether he was or not honest of course, but he came across as honest. One would have to blinded by ideology to think his version of events is less likely to be true than Trump's version.

McCain is quickly becoming the modern Robert Byrd or Strom Thurmond. A senile old puppet managed by his staff.
 
Originally Posted by TofuFighter View Post
General question... given his body language, lack of notes, detailed, unhesitant and consistent responses, do you think Comey came off appearing dishonest?
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Tony Stark said:
I think one would have to be exceptionally dumb/partisan to think that James Comey is more dishonest than Donald Trump. Especially since there are contemporaneous memos. One would have to assume that the FBI director decided early on to destroy Trump with lies.
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The question wasn't is he more dishonest than Trump but did he appear dishonest.
I don't think he appeared dishonest but I am bothered that the former Director of the FBI would have information leaked rather than just presenting the information.
 
eeyore1954 said:
The question wasn't is he more dishonest than Trump but did he appear dishonest.
I don't think he appeared dishonest but I am bothered that the former Director of the FBI would have information leaked rather than just presenting the information.
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I'd definitely like to understand that better as well. It suggests a level of shrewdness that you would possibly expect from an intelligence operative, but not from the disarming Comey exactly.
 
eeyore1954 said:
The question wasn't is he more dishonest than Trump but did he appear dishonest.
I don't think he appeared dishonest but I am bothered that the former Director of the FBI would have information leaked rather than just presenting the information.
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Was it leaked, or released? Comey specifically stated that he didn't classify his notes because of the public interest.
 
eeyore1954 said:
The question wasn't is he more dishonest than Trump but did he appear dishonest.
I don't think he appeared dishonest but I am bothered that the former Director of the FBI would have information leaked rather than just presenting the information.
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Well no he didn't appear to be dishonest. While Trump is a very dishonest person. He lies about things that don't matter. Of course he would lie about something when he has a very clear motive.

And what matters is if the information is true. So what if Comey decided to make sure it got out through a friend.
 
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TofuFighter said:
I'd definitely like to understand that better as well. It suggests a level of shrewdness that you would possibly expect from an intelligence operative, but not from the disarming Comey exactly.
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He said he did it through a friend rather than directly because of the media attention on him.
 
eeyore1954 said:
The question wasn't is he more dishonest than Trump but did he appear dishonest.
I don't think he appeared dishonest but I am bothered that the former Director of the FBI would have information leaked rather than just presenting the information.
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The issue might have been to add evidence from a second source that the memos were written and shared with said second source at the time of the conversations. If Comey just took them to the press, it might look like they were written after he was fired.
 
jimbob said:
Was it leaked, or released? Comey specifically stated that he didn't classify his notes because of the public interest.
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Semantics, it was given to the press through an unnamed source.

Released would have been Comey saying a have these memos about our meetings and this is what is in them.
 
eeyore1954 said:
Semantics, it was given to the press through an unnamed source.

Released would have been Comey saying a have these memos about our meetings and this is what is in them.
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What does it matter. The information got out and now there is a special council as a result.
 
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