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Official James Comey testimony thread

I have to agree with everybody else about McCain. I really like the guy but listening to his questions was cringe worthy. He must be getting senile.
 
There is a load of off topic posts in this thread. The topic of this thread is not what is really real, or any meetings someone called Clinton had with anyone. The topic is in the title of the thread, keep to that or face further moderation action.
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Tony Stark said:
It is a political question whether he will be impeached over it. Because Republican scum care more about their party than they do the country, probably not.
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I suspect that the moment the Republicans in Congress decide that Trump is a political liability rather than an asset, they will turn on him in a big way. OTOH, I'm not sure what it would take to make that happen, given that it hasn't already happened.
 
President Trump’s personal lawyer on Thursday flatly denied former FBI director James B. Comey’s assertion that Trump asked him for “loyalty” and accused Comey of improperly leaking “privileged communications” with the president.

In a statement after Comey’s appearance before the Senate Intelligence Committee, attorney Marc Kasowitz also asserted that Trump never directed Comey “in form or substance” to stop the FBI’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russian officials, and he said Comey’s testimony confirmed that Trump “was not under investigation as part of any probe into Russian interference” in the 2016 election.

Kasowitz took exception with Comey’s written opening statement in which he said that Trump asked for his loyalty during a private, one-on-one dinner at the White House in January. In a memo he wrote after the meeting, Comey quoted Trump as saying: “I need loyalty. I expect loyalty.”

But Kasowitz said Trump never said that.

“The President also never told Mr. Comey, ‘I need loyalty, I expect loyalty’ in form or substance,” Kasowitz said in a written statement, a version of which he read aloud to reporters at the National Press Club. “Of course, the Office of the President is entitled to expect loyalty from those who are serving in an administration, and, from before this President took office to this day, it is overwhelmingly clear that there have been and continue to be those in government who are actively attempting to undermine this administration with selective and illegal leaks of classified information and privileged communications. Mr. Comey has now admitted that he is one of these leakers.”
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...r-told-comey-i-need-loyalty-i-expect-loyalty/

So unless Trump can dig up one of those tapes that verify that he didn't utter those words it seems fairly reasonable to conclude that Comey is likely speaking the truth and Trump is lying. Trump lies constantly about just anything so there's no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt. By contrast i see no reason to suspect the honesty of Comey.

Instead of bolstering their own case Trump's lawyer simply decides to push the narrative that poor innocent and honest Trump is being besieged by slanderous lies from the "deep state". I mean it sure would be nice if Trump had someone document what was and wasn't said in meetings just as a precaution against all those malicious lies spread to tarnish his incredible reputation.
 
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Why would Trump's conversations with Comey be privileged ? He's a lawyer but he wasn't Trump's lawyer.
 
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TraneWreck said:
Good Tweet by Adam Schiff:

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It's funny but it's really unfortunate that politicians are now using social media to bitch each other online.
 
Emily's Cat said:
Why do you believe this to be true?
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There's enough smoke to convince me there's fire. By reputation and confirmed report, Trump is not an honorable man and I think he doesn't give a damn who or what he damages in pursuit of what Donald wants. Worse than that, even, he's much, much less clever than he thinks he is and appears to be very gullible and easily manipulated.

I don't think it can be proven, so I'm not going to try to convince anyone. My opinion in these matters is of no note whatsoever to Trump, the US government and the US in general.

As I say, there is in no way enough to prove it, it's just my belief.
 
McCain Tweets that his bizarre questioning was over peoples' head.
Getting sense my q's today went over ppls heads - maybe going fwd I shouldn’t stay up late watching @Dbacks games...
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At least he explained (ie recognized) the incoherent part.
 
CORed said:
I suspect that the moment the Republicans in Congress decide that Trump is a political liability rather than an asset, they will turn on him in a big way. OTOH, I'm not sure what it would take to make that happen, given that it hasn't already happened.
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Their problem is that he's a liability whether they hold on to his tail or cut him loose. This is the same problem they have with the christian right. They can't win without them but they alienate a yuge chunk of the electorate. Pretty much true of the majority of the GOP coalition.

Comey's testimony has been entertaining, infuriating, and depressing. I expect polling will show a large spike in democrats' opinion of him and large dip in republicans' opinion.
 
Tony Stark said:
Why would Trump's conversations with Comey be privileged ? He's a lawyer but he wasn't Trump's lawyer.
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Wonder if Trump will try to sue Comey.

Private citizen releases his unclassified personal memos to the press to counter lies Trump is telling said public about private citizen.

Should be interesting to see if narcissistic Trump can resist the urge to try to get even with Comey.
 
Ziggurat said:
Executive privilege extends beyond just lawyers.
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Executive privilege does not mean that someone who used to work for the president cannot tell people what was said in conversations with him. Especially when the president himself has talked about them publicly.
 
Here's a Washington Post article gutting the Trump administrations response to Comey's testimony:

What Comey admitted was that he had asked a friend to release details from one of those contemporaneous memos to the media. The material in that memo, detailing a conversation between Comey and Trump, was not classified. Note the wording that Kasowitz uses: “selective and illegal leaks of classified information and privileged communications.” He’s conflating “selective” with “illegal” and “classified” with “privileged.” Comey’s was a selective leak of privileged conversation — not anything illegal. He’s lumping in Comey with those who leaked classified information, for rhetorical effect.

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That Kasowitz indicates he will leave it to the authorities to determine if Comey’s leaks should be investigated suggests that he thinks they will not be. The net effect of this focus on leaks is, of course, to undermine Comey’s testimony.

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The use of “was not” is important here. Comey did testify that, as of the day he was fired one month ago Friday, Trump was not personally under investigation. Comey also indicated that he didn’t say that publicly because that status might change. The nature of an investigation, after all, is to turn up new information.

Finally, it did “leak” that Trump wasn’t under investigation — Trump said it himself, publicly, in the letter firing Comey.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...onse-to-the-comey-testimony-now-with-context/

The most important thing here is that the Presidents lawyer is implying that Comey is lying under oath yet won't (or can't) prove it. Moreover instead of showcasing any kind of evidence to back them up they instead only seek to damage Comey's reputation by painting him as someone who leaked classified information or at least someone who has done something equivalent.
 
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What if McCain pretended to be senile in order to distract people?

(I think him actually being senile is more likely).
 
Tony Stark said:
What if McCain pretended to be senile in order to distract people?

(I think him actually being senile is more likely).
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That's the sort of thing Trump might pull, but I can't see McCain doing it. He's just not that sort of political stuntman.
 
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