Or a widower and a widow. I think since both have been predeceased by their spouses the divorce is not an issue.
Secondly Camilla is not catholic (except in the very broad sense that the CoE is the successor of the catholic church in England).
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Can Queen Elizabeth retire without abdicating?
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Or a widower and a widow. I think since both have been predeceased by their spouses the divorce is not an issue.
Secondly Camilla is not catholic (except in the very broad sense that the CoE is the successor of the catholic church in England).
Damien Evans
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yes they are.
arthwollipot
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Technically.
Damien Evans
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That is incorrect. There is also the royal assent to bills, and to elections.
arthwollipot
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Again, technically correct.
Why would Charles do that? He has spent his entire life being the heir.
Loss Leader
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Sorry, I thought she was straight Catholic. I still really don't see Charles as ever being king. He's already 68. The previous record holder was William IV, who was 64 when crowned and got to enjoy an entire six years before dying.
Trebuchet
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I read naval historical fiction from the Napoleonic era. According to more than one of those, during the reign of Georgre III the Prince of Wales was derisively referred to as "Prinny". I like it. I'm going to start applying it to Chuck.
How do you see this working? The Queen dies........then what?
ddt
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1) The courtiers call a taxidermist who props up the body and they tell Charlie that she's still homeopathically alive. (cue Psycho).
2) A courtier smells a rat and stabs at a curtain. (cue Hamlet in reverse)
3) Someone prescribes Charlie a homeopathic medicine against grief and it turns out to be not so homeopathically diluted. Also quite poisonous.
4) Charlie goes hunting with Dick Cheney.
Frankly, the possibilities are endless.
Loss Leader
I would save the receptionist., Moderator
Charles demures and William becomes King. I guess it's more likely that Charles will become King but make William Prince Regent and then go back to duck hunting or whatever the hell it is he does.
arthwollipot
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I seem to remember some time ages ago that Charles said he would abdicate in favour of his son when QE2 died. I have no source for that.
Why would that ever cross his mind?
By "demures" you must mean "abdicates". The moment the Queen dies Charles is king, whether he wants to be or not. The only way for William to be King at that point is for Charles to abdicate. He could, as you say, have William made Prince Regent. However.........
What I don't think those advocating this understand is the royal family's sense of duty. "Serving" as monarch is seen by them as, literally, a sacred duty. With the stress on duty. They are brought up their whole lives with the creed of serving the country. In a thousand years of monarchy there has been one abdication and that because of ridiculous rules about who the monarch could marry. There is now no reason for Charles to not do the job he has been preparing himself for all his life, and he would see himself, no doubt, as a contemptible coward if he took the route you are suggesting. It won't happen.
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There is no "technically" about it. Though the same person holds all four crowns, which is by design, the four crowns are different. In New Zealand the Police, Government, and Military all swear allegiance to the New Zealand Crown, not the UK one, or the Australian one.
Also the Crown has two jobs, Seating Parliament, which includes the oath of office of the new PM, and also in signing legislation. Both jobs are formalities now, but they are the reason we still have Governor Generals.
The best thing about having a Constitutional Monarchy is that we don;t have to worry about having a Head of State like Trump, who whats to turn the government into his another leg of his businesses.
arthwollipot
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Yeah, I don't remember where I heard it - it was so long ago that it has been part of my background "knowledge" pretty much since I can remember. One of those wrong things that I assumed true and then never really thought about it again.There's a good reason for that!
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He'd never do it. He's been waiting all his life to be King. Abdication is something the public and press toss around, not the royals.
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What callousness? Staying with her bereaved grandchildren is callous? Diana and Charles both threw the monarchy under the bus with their public back and forthing in interviews and books, etc. Charles, especially, was pretty vicious towards his parents. Why was the Queen expected to metaphorically kiss Diana's casket? Diana wouldn't have done it for her.
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Actually, the media figured out a plan to duck responsibility for dogging Diana's every footstep for sixteen years: deflect all of the blame onto the bad, unfeeling Queen...and the public fell for it. Cause short of prostrating herself on Diana's casket and weeping uncontrollably, or launching William and Harry into the crowds as soon as the news broke, there wasn't much the Queen could have done that she didn't do.
Funny how the Queen became the scapegoat, huh? I mean, Charles was 50 years old, and Diana was the mother of his sons. Yet I didn't seen him traveling down from Balmoral the greet the crowds earlier, or make any on camera statements about her death. Nope, left it all on Mummy's shoulders...and watched her take the heat. What a guy.
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