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Merged All things Trump + Russia

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logger said:
Elon Musk? Hilarious.

It's America first!
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Exxon Mobile might carry a little bit more weight with you? They apparently are quite willing to accept regulations for the sake of stability and it's been noted that advances in technology might get us to the target carbon reductions regardless of Trump?
 
logger said:
Well, it's just a way to keep it from being personal. A tactic I've learned so I don't go against the MA. Cheap, possibly but effective.
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Can you see why that might make it difficult to have a meaningful exchange with you?

logger said:
Yet? Lol
But we can report congress people who've reported there is nothing.
I do find it interesting that you don't direct this also to your side, who are ready to impeach.
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Congress cannot report that 'there's nothing' any more than you or I can. Plenty of people on the forum on 'my side' recognise the fact that evidence hasn't been presented and however much some of them want impeachment for a myriad of reasons, including what appears to be suspicious contact with a foreign government, they know that it will have to wait on the investigation. Mueller is not good news for Trump, but if the investigation confirms that there's been no impeachable actions from Trump's team, then that will be accepted (among some wailing and gnashing of teeth).
Anyone from any political position can read what i've written here.

logger said:
You asked the question.
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The question I asked was rhetorical, and i answered it in the same sentence. I said nothing about Obama, that was you.
 
Sideroxylon said:
With so many careless/suicidal and criminal journalists. He can't be blamed.
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Some of the suicides are very intricate - do you have any idea how much effort one has to go to in order to get hold of a lethal amount of polonium to administer to oneself?
 
a_unique_person said:
Nigel Farage is a person of interest according to the Guardian. Help. Let me out of here.
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Article.

Sources who spoke to the Guardian said it was Farage’s proximity to people at the heart of the investigation that was being examined as an element in their broader inquiry into how Russia may have worked with Trump campaign officials to influence the US election.

“One of the things the intelligence investigators have been looking at is points of contact and persons involved,” one source said. “If you triangulate Russia, WikiLeaks, Assange and Trump associates the person who comes up with the most hits is Nigel Farage.

“He’s right in the middle of these relationships. He turns up over and over again. There’s a lot of attention being paid to him.”

The source mentioned Farage’s links with Roger Stone, Trump’s long-time political adviser who has admitted being in contact with Guccifer 2.0, a hacker whom US intelligence agencies believe to be a Kremlin agent.
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Putin hints at independent Russian hackers being involved in the 2016 election:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/01/world/europe/vladimir-putin-donald-trump-hacking.html?_r=0

from the article:

Raising the possibility of attacks by what he portrayed as free-spirited Russian patriots, Mr. Putin said that hackers “are like artists” who choose their targets depending how they feel “when they wake up in the morning.”

“If they are patriotically minded, they start making their contributions — which are right, from their point of view — to the fight against those who say bad things about Russia,” he added.
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I think it very likely that there is a "fire break" between Putin and any kind of direct Trump support, digital or financial. What I find next to impossible that such actions could happen against his will or general knowledge.
 
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TofuFighter said:
Can you see why that might make it difficult to have a meaningful exchange with you?
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Are you having this difficult time?


Congress cannot report that 'there's nothing' any more than you or I can. Plenty of people on the forum on 'my side' recognise the fact that evidence hasn't been presented and however much some of them want impeachment for a myriad of reasons, including what appears to be suspicious contact with a foreign government, they know that it will have to wait on the investigation. Mueller is not good news for Trump, but if the investigation confirms that there's been no impeachable actions from Trump's team, then that will be accepted (among some wailing and gnashing of teeth).
Anyone from any political position can read what i've written here.
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Plenty on your side don't seem to understand impeachment talk is a bit premature.
So if you don't mind we'll go on talking about it. ;)

question I asked[/url] was rhetorical, and i answered it in the same sentence. I said nothing about Obama, that was you.
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I'm fully aware I brought up Obama, it was a good point to your question. ;)
 
Aridas said:
Exxon Mobile might carry a little bit more weight with you? They apparently are quite willing to accept regulations for the sake of stability and it's been noted that advances in technology might get us to the target carbon reductions regardless of Trump?
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I suppose you don't drive a car? If you are, doesn't this make you a polluter?

If these polluters are your enemy, why aren't you bike riding?
 
logger said:
China and Europe are going to hamstring their economies and we aren't! ;)
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...well apart from deliberately using outmoded technology and bearing the costs of polluting the environment that is.......

I guess we'll see whether the US approach of retrenching its economy in the 1950s is more effective than other countries moving towards the future.
 
logger said:
China and Europe are going to hamstring their economies and we aren't! ;)
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right?
I mean, we wouldn't want our companies to invest in new technologies when the old ones are doing fine with government subsidies...
*cough*nuclear*coal*cough*
 
logger said:
China and Europe are going to hamstring their economies and we aren't! ;)
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Well it isn't a surprise president ****bag also wants to be a free rider. At some point, as an adult, you just have to suck it up that there is a free rider problem, and work extra hard.
 
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