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The biggest straw man

logger said:
I don't even necessarily disagree with single payer, it's obviously heard that way. Government has done its best to force it.

Eventually you're going to get everything you want. There's no way a small contingent of rich are going to be able to hold back the masses from getting their freebies. But the biggest reason is the world is headed that way to set up for the Ant-Christ. I'm sure none here believe that but it's obvious to believers.
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Your apocalyptic resignation to creating a better world while we are here would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
 
logger said:
But the biggest reason is the world is headed that way to set up for the Ant-Christ. I'm sure none here believe that but it's obvious to believers.
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This should make you ecstatic. You should be getting ready to rapture on up. Tell you what, I'll buy some of your tools and **** right now, ten cents on the dollar.
 
acbytesla said:
Your apocalyptic resignation to creating a better world while we are here would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
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This sort of thing is terribly amusing. In any case, It's not going to happen. I like the world to much to end it, and the 'anti-christ' is in time out until he can learn to play nice.
 
Logger said:
But the biggest reason is the world is headed that way to set up for the Ant-Christ. I'm sure none here believe that but it'
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Shalamar said:
This sort of thing is terribly amusing. In any case, It's not going to happen. I like the world to much to end it, and the 'anti-christ' is in time out until he can learn to play nice.
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Well, Logger is right. I don't believe in the anti-Christ or that the rapture would be preceded by free healthcare.
 
Wait, wait, wait . . . I've never heard of this ant-christ thing. Is it in one of the apocryphal books?
 
logger said:
Taking half a persons income isn't too high?
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A marginal tax rate of 50% does not actually mean that half a person's income is taken (only 50% of the income above the threshold for the 50% bracket).

I'm not familiar with the tax structure in Norway or Denmakr, but I'd be surprised if anybody is paying half their income in taxes.
 
CORed said:
A marginal tax rate of 50% does not actually mean that half a person's income is taken (only 50% of the income above the threshold for the 50% bracket).

I'm not familiar with the tax structure in Norway or Denmakr, but I'd be surprised if anybody is paying half their income in taxes.
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I'd really like to know why this is such a horrible problem. If we took half of Bill Gates's income this year do you really think he'd miss it? How many yachts does Paul Allen need? Isn't the Tatoosh and the Octopus enough? 90 percent of my income every year I don't touch and I doubt you would call me rich.

OTOH, 10 percent to someone living on the poverty line is huge.
 
acbytesla said:
I'd really like to know why this is such a horrible problem. If we took half of Bill Gates's income this year do you really think he'd miss it? How many yachts does Paul Allen need? Isn't the Tatoosh and the Octopus enough? 90 percent of my income every year I don't touch and I doubt you would call me rich.

OTOH, 10 percent to someone living on the poverty line is huge.
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Yes, I do think he would miss it, and I do think Paul Allen needs 3+ yachts. What is your point?
 
BobTheCoward said:
Yes, I do think he would miss it, and I do think Paul Allen needs 3+ yachts. What is your point?
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But consider this:

Paul Allen is awesome at business, so we want him to work for as long as possible.
But if his dream is, say, 5 yachts, then he can quit as soon as he has the money to buy them.
So in order to make the most of his talent, we should tax him heavily, thereby delaying the moment when he has saved enough money to sail into the sunset in style.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I am perfectly happy to be asked to use empathy and reach a conclusion on it. I just don't know how one provides evidence of that use of empathy. It isn't a claim of fact.
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Right, but you have over and over placed yourself above such unprovable claims. Hell, you've distanced yourself from the utility of "Facts" and empiricism, preferring logical "truths."

I'm curious why you think your empathy towards how you imagine two of the richest people on the planet feel is relevant to a discussion of tax rates.
 
TraneWreck said:
Right, but you have over and over placed yourself above such unprovable claims. Hell, you've distanced yourself from the utility of "Facts" and empiricism, preferring logical "truths."

I'm curious why you think your empathy towards how you imagine two of the richest people on the planet feel is relevant to a discussion of tax rates.
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Then you misunderstand me. I object to asserting provable claims that are not proven. Asserting unprovable claims is perfectly fine.

ACBY directly asked how the two richest people would feel

If we took half of Bill Gates's income this year do you really think he'd miss it? How many yachts does Paul Allen need? Isn't the Tatoosh and the Octopus enough?
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Those are emotion based questions.
 
acbytesla said:
I'd really like to know why this is such a horrible problem. If we took half of Bill Gates's income this year do you really think he'd miss it? How many yachts does Paul Allen need? Isn't the Tatoosh and the Octopus enough? 90 percent of my income every year I don't touch and I doubt you would call me rich.

OTOH, 10 percent to someone living on the poverty line is huge.
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Do you really think he'd miss it? Lol

Quite telling and he is a rabid leftist, why doesn't he just give it to you?
 
BobTheCoward said:
Then you misunderstand me. I object to asserting provable claims that are not proven. Asserting unprovable claims is perfectly fine.
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What do you mean, "perfectly fine"? You think policy should be based on a series of unprovable claims?
 
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