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pgwenthold said:
And yet, republicans assert that Hillary "was the worst candidate in history."

Of course she wasn't. The problem was that republicans ignored the stuff that was terrible about Trump.

Everything in his candidacy foretold this idiocy of a President
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She lost to the man that will likely be the worst president ever...
 
Newtons Bit said:
She lost to the man that will likely be the worst president ever...
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Not a thing to be proud of, for sure, but I find this effort to place sole blame for her loss on her to be incredibly ridiculous and disingenuous.

The voters are not blameless in our system.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Not a thing to be proud of, for sure, but I find this effort to place sole blame for her loss on her to be incredibly ridiculous and disingenuous.

The voters are not blameless in our system.
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Her job was to convince the voters that she was the right person for the job. She failed.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Her job was to convince the voters that she was the right person for the job. She failed.
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As Stacko alludes to, I'd say that +3m votes Hillary received over Trump kind of proves that wrong.

ETA: More philosophically, is it a failure of the person who can't move a mountain? (actually, that kind of sucks)

You go into a situation attempting to move a person that has no intention of being moved (often for very ridiculous reasons), is it your fault, or the fault of the person refusing to accept a reasonable argument? At what point would "any means necessary" be an acceptable strategy? Is it a player's fault for not playing as unfairly as the other person?
 
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Trump asked intelligence chiefs to push back against FBI collusion probe after Comey revealed its existence

President Trump asked two of the nation’s top intelligence officials in March to help him push back against an FBI investigation into possible coordination between his campaign and the Russian government, according to current and former officials.

Trump made separate appeals to the director of national intelligence, Daniel Coats, and to Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election.

Coats and Rogers refused to comply with the requests, which they both deemed to be inappropriate, according to two current and two former officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private communications with the president.
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ETA: This is the exact same behavior Republicans forced Nixon to resign for.

In addition to the requests to Coats and Rogers, senior White House officials sounded out top intelligence officials about the possibility of intervening directly with Comey to encourage the FBI to drop its probe of Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, according to people familiar with the matter. The officials said the White House appeared uncertain about its power to influence the FBI.

“Can we ask him to shut down the investigation? Are you able to assist in this matter?” one official said of the line of questioning from the White House.
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acbytesla said:
I just imagined a skit based on a musical number from A Sound of Music where instead of Nuns singing 'How do you solve a problem like Maria' You have generals, aides, Ivanka etc singing a parody 'How do you solve a problem like the Donald' Haven't written the song but I could see SNL doing it.
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He hasn't built the wall yet, wants to end Obamacare
His inauguration crowd was woefully threadbare
And underneath his crazy wig, he's got no ******* hair!
I've even heard him swearing at the TV!

He has a pair of tiny hands, and shiny orange skin
He's not shy of firing staff, except for Michael Flynn
It's not clear yet, but Comey might, just come back to haunt him
The Donalds not an asset to the White House.

(I'd like to say a word on his behalf
Donald makes us laugh)

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means the Donald?
A Rich-hypocrite? A pussygrabber! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay, and listen to all you say?
How do you stop him tweeting from his phone?

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
When will this government be overthrown?

When I watch him I'm irate, Making America Great
seems as likely as Nebraskan oceanfront.
Unpredictable as smoke, is this all some kind of joke?
He's a cancer, he's a conman, he's a ****!

He'd out brazen Alex Jones, Gold plates everything he owns
He's been in bed with Mother Russia for a while
He is petty, He is wild! He's a braggard, He's a child!
He's a headache, He's a liar, He's on trial! (soon, with any luck...)

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find the word that means the Donald?
A rich-hypocrite? A pussygrabber! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay, and listen to all you say?
How do you stop him tweeting from his phone?

Oh how do you solve a problem like the Donald?
When will this government be overthrown?

...

If SNL do this, then I am imagining various Trump aides etc dressed in Nun costumes singing this.
 
Ambrosia said:
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He hasn't built the wall yet, wants to end Obamacare
His inauguration crowd was woefully threadbare
And underneath his crazy wig, he's got no ******* hair!
I've even heard him swearing at the TV!

He has a pair of tiny hands, and shiny orange skin
He's not shy of firing staff, except for Michael Flynn
It's not clear yet, but Comey might, just come back to haunt him
The Donalds not an asset to the White House.

(I'd like to say a word on his behalf
Donald makes us laugh)

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means the Donald?
A Rich-hypocrite? A pussygrabber! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay, and listen to all you say?
How do you stop him tweeting from his phone?

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
When will this government be overthrown?

When I watch him I'm irate, Making America Great
seems as likely as Nebraskan oceanfront.
Unpredictable as smoke, is this all some kind of joke?
He's a cancer, he's a conman, he's a ****!

He'd out brazen Alex Jones, Gold plates everything he owns
He's been in bed with Mother Russia for a while
He is petty, He is wild! He's a braggard, He's a child!
He's a headache, He's a liar, He's on trial! (soon, with any luck...)

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find the word that means the Donald?
A rich-hypocrite? A pussygrabber! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay, and listen to all you say?
How do you stop him tweeting from his phone?

Oh how do you solve a problem like the Donald?
When will this government be overthrown?

...

If SNL do this, then I am imagining various Trump aides etc dressed in Nun costumes singing this.
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VERY GOOD!
 
More and more the evidence that Trump committed Obstruction is piling up.

President Trump asked two of the nation’s top intelligence officials in March to help him push back against an FBI investigation into possible coordination between his campaign and the Russian government, according to current and former officials.

Trump made separate appeals to the director of national intelligence, Daniel Coats, and to Adm. Michael S. Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, urging them to publicly deny the existence of any evidence of collusion during the 2016 election.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ac8b446820a_story.html?utm_term=.92f586898cfc
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It will be absolutely hilarious if they can't prove that Trump broke the law colluding with the Russians but he gets done in for obstruction anyway.
 
Ambrosia said:
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He hasn't built the wall yet, wants to end Obamacare
His inauguration crowd was woefully threadbare
And underneath his crazy wig, he's got no ******* hair!
I've even heard him swearing at the TV!

He has a pair of tiny hands, and shiny orange skin
He's not shy of firing staff, except for Michael Flynn
It's not clear yet, but Comey might, just come back to haunt him
The Donalds not an asset to the White House.

(I'd like to say a word on his behalf
Donald makes us laugh)

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find a word that means the Donald?
A Rich-hypocrite? A pussygrabber! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay, and listen to all you say?
How do you stop him tweeting from his phone?

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
When will this government be overthrown?

When I watch him I'm irate, Making America Great
seems as likely as Nebraskan oceanfront.
Unpredictable as smoke, is this all some kind of joke?
He's a cancer, he's a conman, he's a ****!

He'd out brazen Alex Jones, Gold plates everything he owns
He's been in bed with Mother Russia for a while
He is petty, He is wild! He's a braggard, He's a child!
He's a headache, He's a liar, He's on trial! (soon, with any luck...)

How do you solve a problem like the Donald?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find the word that means the Donald?
A rich-hypocrite? A pussygrabber! A clown!

Many a thing you know you'd like to tell him
Many a thing he ought to understand
But how do you make him stay, and listen to all you say?
How do you stop him tweeting from his phone?

Oh how do you solve a problem like the Donald?
When will this government be overthrown?

...

If SNL do this, then I am imagining various Trump aides etc dressed in Nun costumes singing this.
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Choruses tend to be easy, but you handled the more challenging verses with aplomb.

Worthy of The Capital Steps!
 
Stacko said:

This is pure Nixon.
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It will be really interesting to see what a Republican Congress will do with this info. Whatever doubt I had that Trump may not have committed obstruction-of-justice has disappeared. Here you have Flynn doing everything in his power to avoid incriminating himself. You have Trump asking anyone and everyone to help him stop the investigation. You have Nunes with his late night trip to the White House. You have what Trump said to the Russians, you have what Trump said to Lester Holt. You have Trump asking the FBI director for a loyalty pledge and then you have Trump firing Comey.

Could you wrap it up with a bow Donald?
 
Tony Stark said:
It will be absolutely hilarious if they can't prove that Trump broke the law colluding with the Russians but he gets done in for obstruction anyway.
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Actually, not that surprising. The one absolutely conclusive charge against Nixon was Obstruction. The smoking gun tape shows Nixon trying everything to avoid connecting the Watergate burglary to himself.
 
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Fast Eddie B said:
Well, that's the ball game.

Clinton's popular vote win is a matter of popular knowledge, and has been stipulated to here repeatedly.

It's still tedious.
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It's worth returning to now that he's on the ropes from the Russia leaks. The topic elicits anger responses when it comes up. Goading him into more, increasingly unhinged tweets pushes a productive narrative.
 
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