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Stacko said:
They're getting desperate.

The Trump administration is exploring whether it can use an obscure ethics rule to undermine the special counsel investigation into ties between President Donald Trump's campaign team and Russia, two people familiar with White House thinking said on Friday.
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Trump's people trying to stymie the investigation based on an ethics concern reaches an almost nuclear level of irony.

You can't make this kind of stuff up, folks. The late-night writers can retire. Real life is rolling over them. All the talk show hosts need to do is read the news out loud. The jokes have written themselves.
 
quadraginta said:
Trump's people trying to stymie the investigation based on an ethics concern reaches an almost nuclear level of irony.

You can't make this kind of stuff up, folks. The late-night writers can retire. Real life is rolling over them. All the talk show hosts need to do is read the news out loud. The jokes have written themselves.
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Hell, I can think of countless skits. For example, I just imagined a skit based on a musical number from A Sound of Music where instead of Nuns singing 'How do you solve a problem like Maria' You have generals, aides, Ivanka etc singing a parody 'How do you solve a problem like the Donald' Haven't written the song but I could see SNL doing it.
 
Crossbow said:
Oh yes!

You are quite correct, my mistake.

For some reason I was thinking that Harrison died shortly after the start of his second term, but instead he died shortly after starting his first term.

Sorry about that.
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You blew it! You didn't take any lessons from Trump. Here's your Trumpian post:
LOSER! Of course I meant living President. It's right there in my post! It's your own damn fault you can't read! I'd school you some more but the guys on the first tee are getting antsy.
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acbytesla said:
Hell, I can think of countless skits. For example, I just imagined a skit based on a musical number from A Sound of Music where instead of Nuns singing 'How do you solve a problem like Maria' You have generals, aides, Ivanka etc singing a parody 'How do you solve a problem like the Donald' Haven't written the song but I could see SNL doing it.
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Sure, but they still won't match the wonderful, nearly magical gift of reality.

If someone were to have composed a novel with a plot the same as this episode in our political history it would have been roundly rejected by publishers as being altogether too far-fetched.

They wouldn't even have been able to pass it off as fantasy.
 
quadraginta said:
Sure, but they still won't match the wonderful, nearly magical gift of reality.

If someone were to have composed a novel with a plot the same as this episode in our political history it would have been roundly rejected by publishers as being altogether too far-fetched.

They wouldn't even have been able to pass it off as fantasy.
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I'm talking jokes and comedy skits in that they write themselves with Trump. I've compared it to Nixon but that isn't fair.


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to Nixon
 
phiwum said:
How could it be a felony for Wittes to tell a reporter what his friend (Comey) told him over lunch? Nothing that Comey said was covered by confidentiality laws or security classifications.

What law do you think might be broken here or in the case of leaks regarding Comey's memos?
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phiwum said:
How so? Be as explicit as you can.
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logger has been a bit silent about these two questions. Shame.
 
I Am The Scum said:
I like this article, but what's this at the end about invoking the 25th amendment? Is that a serious suggestion in Republican circles? This is the first I've heard it.
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I don't know who might be considering it, but if someone is then they're probably slightly stupid. Under the 25th amendment, the Cabinet ("the principal officers of the executive departments") can take away a President's powers, which make the Vice President (or whomever is next in the line of succession) the "Acting President." Congress can then, by a 2/3rds vote, maintain that situation after the President makes a written declaration that s/he is able to discharge the duties of the office. But, in that situation, the office of President would not be vacated. Removing the President from office, thus allowing the next in line of succession to assume the office in full, would still require House impeachment and Senate trial.
 
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Babbylonian said:
I don't know who might be considering it, but if someone is then they're probably slightly stupid. Under the 25th amendment, the Cabinet ("the principal officers of the executive departments") can take away a President's powers, which make the Vice President (or whomever is next in the line of succession) the "Acting President." Congress can then, by a 2/3rds vote, maintain that situation after the President makes a written declaration that s/he is able to discharge the duties of the office. But, in that situation, the office of President would not be vacated. Removing the President from office, thus allowing the next in line of succession to assume the office in fall, would still require House impeachment and Senate trial.
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There's no real possibility that the Republican House and Senate would impeach and convict Trump, and there's probably no real possibility that Trump's hand-picked VP and cabinet would conspire to apply the 25th. What we can hope for is that the investigations turn up something so damaging that elders will go to Trump and say "This is bad, but we won't pursue it if you just resign and get outta town."
 
Bob001 said:
There's no real possibility that the Republican House and Senate would impeach and convict Trump, and there's probably no real possibility that Trump's hand-picked VP and cabinet would conspire to apply the 25th.
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While I agree that the latter is highly improbable, I'm beginning to think the former is on the verge of being inevitable. It'll depend largely on what the Mueller/FBI investigation turns up, but there's too much smoke to declare out of hand there aren't fires burning. If public opinion keeps going further against the current occupant of the Oval Office, the Republicans will have to act or even their most ardent supporters will abandon them the next time they're up for election. I think there could be incumbents who lose to primary challengers because the challengers pledge to fight for impeachment.
 
Bob001 said:
There's no real possibility that the Republican House and Senate would impeach and convict Trump, and there's probably no real possibility that Trump's hand-picked VP and cabinet would conspire to apply the 25th. What we can hope for is that the investigations turn up something so damaging that elders will go to Trump and say "This is bad, but we won't pursue it if you just resign and get outta town."
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I think it's a long shot. But I absolutely believe it's a possibility. Invoking the 25th seems more unlikely.

I don't think Trump has strong allies in Congress. These people will do what is best for themselves and the GOP. They don't care about Trump. They care about survival. If Trump keeps making an ass out of himself and he starts to lose support among Republicans, they will go to Trump and attempt to get him to resign just like they did with Nixon. But if Trump says no they will do it.
 
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