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xjx388 said:
I don't know if I'd classify that as a "lie." He always said he had made the decision before the recommendation. Then he got the recommendation. So he can already have made up his mind and the Rosenstein memo just confirmed what he was already thinking.

My question: If Rosenstein already knew Trump was going to fire Comey, why did he then write a memo recommending the firing?
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Rosenstein wrote the memo because Trump told him to make a case against Comey. He wrote one that argued that Comey treated Hillary unfairly. But Trump actually believes that Comey was too soft on Hillary. Trump used the memo anyway because he is an incompetent liar. For some reason, nobody believed Trump fired Comey for treating Hillary poorly.
 
Tony Stark said:
What an idiot.
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I wish he was an idiot. But as others have pointed out, he always seems to come out ahead.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...1f359183e8c_story.html?utm_term=.f979da9e0627

And Republicans have no principles.
The G.O.P., by contrast, is one branch of a monolithic structure, movement conservatism, with a rigid ideology — tax cuts for the rich above all else.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/...version=Full&region=Marginalia&pgtype=article
 
Whether or not the beast is a bought-and-paid-for pawn of Russia, it's definitely spending way too much time talking to Russian representatives.
 
Good afternoon. The interesting thing is that the NYT has a transcript of that meeting. Did this come from the Russians?

In other news right now, The Washington Post is saying that a Current Senior White House Official is a "person of interest" in the investigation into the Russian connection.

Eta I see the article says the info came from a summary of the meeting however MSNBC said that the NYT had a transcript. Maybe, maybe not. In either case that info is very telling as to the mindset of President Trump.
 
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JPK said:
Good afternoon. The interesting thing is that the NYT has a transcript of that meeting. Did this come from the Russians?
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A transcript, not a recording. Both sides had note-takers, and multiple officials have access to the notes, which apparently at least one shared with the NYT, which then confirmed the contents with others.
 
His inability to make simple future predictions of his actions, his rank amateurism of his political calculus....unbelievable.
 
xjx388 said:
I don't know if I'd classify that as a "lie." He always said he had made the decision before the recommendation. Then he got the recommendation. So he can already have made up his mind and the Rosenstein memo just confirmed what he was already thinking.
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You have to look at the exact wording used in Trump's statements. Sure he could already have made up his mind, with the Justice memo providing further cover. Rosenstein didn't see it that way; he was incensed his memo was used to support firing. Silly boy.

xjx388 said:
My question: If Rosenstein already knew Trump was going to fire Comey, why did he then write a memo recommending the firing?
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The memo stopped short of recommending firing. IMO he was pretty much told to provide an accounting of Comey's errors, with the suggestion that Comey could either be fired or forgiven if he cooperated with a mea culpa, I'll never do it again response. (Plus knowing firing was a distinct possibility.)

I also think it's fair for Comey to say he wasn't asked (by the president) to halt the investigation of Flynn. "I hope you can find some way to lay this aside" (paraphrase) is not a question. Ditto in a fairly long-winded question about whether Justice had pressured him. I do wonder at Comey's use of proxies but he might have good reason for it.

At some point maybe we can look at indirect language and conclude there is no other possible meaning than the stronger "Trump asked Comey to drop the investigation." (my words)

Don't forget, most of these guys are lawyers. They get pretty good at ass-covering in the exact language used.

Except Sessions, lol.
 
I find it amazing that he thought he could fire Comey without anybody caring and that without Comey the investigation would go away.
 
Every day I think Trump can't do anything dumber, and then he says "hold my beer, I wanna try this thing I saw on YouTube".
 
Tony Stark said:
I find it amazing that he thought he could fire Comey without anybody caring and that without Comey the investigation would go away.
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He doesn't seem to grasp that reality exists independently of his perception.
 
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