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Merged Trump Fires Comey....

William Parcher said:
This forum has no mission statement or stated theme. Therefore it has no identifiable purpose.
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Of course it does. It's a continuation of the JREF forum which definitely had a stated purpose that attracted membership. It has the same purpose now. Unsupported claims about politics belong in the politics section.
 
a_unique_person said:
I could be wrong, but it's not every day the POTUS fires the head of the FBI.
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This is the second time in history. Bill Clinton fired the FBI director for petty corruption, e.g. using government money to upgrade his home. It was uncontroversial; Clinton wasn't being investigated.

There's a reason that FBI directors are supposed to serve a 10 year term.
 
Argumemnon said:
Of course it does. It's a continuation of the JREF forum which definitely had a stated purpose that attracted membership. It has the same purpose now. Unsupported claims about politics belong in the politics section.
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You can say that, but without a printed mission statement it really is a wandering blind drunk with no real purpose.
 
Puppycow said:
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Like I said, a gigantic hypocrite. But Democrats who were once calling for Comey to resign shouldn't forget that either.
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This is not hypocrisy.

It is not hypocrisy to say that Comey's actions were gravely wrong and he should resign and then months later to be concerned when Trump fires Comey (even putatively for those same actions) when the firing appears to be connected to the Russia investigation. Perhaps Comey's actions back then were a firing offence[1], but that does not mean that any firing of Comey is excusable just because you can point to that prior offence.

[1] I honestly have no idea. I vacillate on my opinion of Comey's actions.
 
Argumemnon said:
Isn't the purpose of the whole forum to examine claims? That's why we have sections for various topics.
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The people on the forum making a claim often point to the fact that some agency is investigating. But that isn't evidence, that is merely pointing to a group making claims themselves and haven't presented their evidence. At this stage, they are the equivalent​ of psychics right now.
 
varwoche said:
We know for a fact that...

  • Trump flat out lied about his relationship with Putin
  • Trump flat out lied about his role in GOP platform concerning Ukraine
  • Manafort flat out lied about his/Trump role in GOP platform
  • Manafort flat out lied about his deep Russian relationships
  • Flynn flat out lied about his Russian contacts
  • Trump lied by omission about Flynn's contacts
  • Sessions flat out lied about his Russian contacts
  • Carter Page flat out lied about his Russian contacts
  • Various campaign officials lied about Page's relationship with the campaign
  • Roger Stone flat out lied about his Russian contacts
  • Trump is pretending that Manafort was minimally involved in the campaign
  • Trump remains evasive about Flynn to this day
  • Trump Jr acknowledged significant Russian money coming into the business, but Trump now denies
  • Trump openly encouraged Russia to hack Clinton

"Lack of evidence"? On Planet X maybe.
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And none of that is evidence of stuff like collusion on the election. They are protesting Russian and like to lie about it. So what?
 
varwoche said:
This is the second time in history. Bill Clinton fired the FBI director for petty corruption, e.g. using government money to upgrade his home. It was uncontroversial; Clinton wasn't being investigated.

There's a reason that FBI directors are supposed to serve a 10 year term.
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And Clinton's firing of Sessions had a six month investigation and 161 page report.

https://lawfareblog.com/nightmare-scenario-trump-fires-comey-one-man-who-would-stand-him

He wasn't mad that Sessions wouldn't lie for him to give his false claims credibility and make an active investigation into the President go away.
 
Donald is at it on twitter again. He's a man-child, sheesuz on a stick! I hope the Senate finally appoints an independent investigator.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Donald is at it on twitter again. He's a man-child, sheesuz on a stick! I hope the Senate finally appoints an independent investigator.
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It is an interesting predicament. I wonder if he thought firing him for the reasons Democrats wanted him fired would work? It is hypocrisy that is the issue.

Though it is a tad bit hypocritical on Democrat's part.
 
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Crossbow said:
I expect that Trump is the type of executive who always like to have some dirt on his key subordinates, so that he always has a ready rationale to excise any subordinate (or subordinates) any time that Trump considers it convenient to do so.
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They call that business. Also see business as usual, and taking care of business.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
I'd think Washington area chiropractors are in boom times...

...treating for whiplash.

On both sides.

"Comey - Hero or Goat?"

From the left:

Declines to prosecute Hillary: Hero.

Informs congress of potential evidence coming to light in the investigation: Goat.

Fired by Trump: Hero.

And from the right, flip everything 180°.

Fascinating to watch, but in a "car wreck" sort of way.
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You forgot his villain for investigating the VP leaking classified information.
 
varwoche said:
I'm hopeful that this time it's a step too far, and that a special prosecutor will be appointed. This depends on republicans like McCain and Sasse gaining traction.
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Do we even have that law anymore? We don't have the one Starr used.
 
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