Merged Trump Fires Comey....

[Belz...]

genius.

(kisses fingers in the French fashion)

You do know that this isn't a counter-argument, right?

This is basically all you're doing these days: call something silly, laugh it off, and ignore it. Gee, that's some mighty skepticism, there.

He didn't do that. Instead he fired Comey while explaining it was because of Clinton.

Which is ridiculous. It makes no sense to fire him now for something that happened six months ago when he had plenty of time to do it right off the bat, and when there's a much better explanation available. And this is besides the fact that Trump thought Comey's behaviour back then was a-ok.

And since Trump never tells the truth, you know that what he says is also a lie.

The Big Dog don't deal in partisan speculation.

Facts, I need facts.

 

[Davidm]

NM

 

[logger]

Well, it looks like the narrative is starting, at least:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/10/politics/comey-yates-bharara-fired-after-investigations/

The only mistake Trump made is not firing these people on day one. Its the same mistake Bush made.

 

[logger]

Are they defending Comey, because I haven't heard that from this side of the Atlantic. What I have heard is that, given the praise heaped on Comey by Trump during and immediately after the election campaign w.r.t. the e-mail investigation, it's strange that he's being fired for that same thing.

Instead they are questioning motives and suggesting that this has more to do with killing off the Russia investigations.

The Russian investigation killed itself off, for lack of evidence.

 

[Belz...]

Was Comey investigating Trump?

This is just another brilliant move by Trump. It was clearly done to make the left explode. BOOM!

Because tribal politics is all that matters now.

When is your side going to realize you'll never beat him, you'll never get him. this all looks very easy to him.

He's quoted as saying it's much harder than he thought. Are you done making stuff up?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

The Russian investigation killed itself off, for lack of evidence.

If lack of evidence is what kills an investigation, why was it that Benghazi lasted that long?

 

[Belz...]

Those are 16 groups that may be making claims, but they have presented zero evidence. Claims without evidence belong over there.

Isn't the purpose of the whole forum to examine claims? That's why we have sections for various topics.

 

[Belz...]

Why do you keep on insisting that someone must reach a conclusion given the lack of evidence?

There's plenty of evidence, Bob.

Being skeptical doesn't prevent one from recognising even weak evidence, nor should it stop us from reaching conclusions based on incomplete evidence.

 

[logger]

If lack of evidence is what kills an investigation, why was it that Benghazi lasted that long?

Because key issues were not resolved. Like who ordered the stand down.

 

[logger]

Because tribal politics is all that matters now.

As it always has?

He's quoted as saying it's much harder than he thought. Are you done making stuff up?

How is my opinion that this looks easy to him, me making things up?

 

[Belz...]

So please stop freaking out. He was fired for cause.

He should've been fired by Obama, then. Trump coming in six months later to fire him on something he agreed with back then sounds like he's firing him for something else and --- oh, look! He was investigating Trump at the time. Yeah, sure, I'll buy that.

 

[logger]

There's plenty of evidence, Bob.

Being skeptical doesn't prevent one from recognising even weak evidence, nor should it stop us from reaching conclusions based on incomplete evidence.

Evidence that Trump was involved? Funny people involved keep saying there isn't any evidence.

 

[logger]

He should've been fired by Obama, then. Trump coming in six months later to fire him on something he agreed with back then sounds like he's firing him for something else and --- oh, look! He was investigating Trump at the time. Yeah, sure, I'll buy that.

lol
You don't think Obama firing him would have brought the same melt downs?

 

[phiwum]

And the hacking of voter registration databases? The fake/doctored emails? The fact our voting machines are not secure and demonstrably have not been since the mid 2000s? The statistical analyses that show anomalies in pro-Clinton precincts and counties?

There is more than enough evidence to invalidate this so-called election, if not outright declare Clinton the rightful winner.

First, evidence for the highlighted?

Second, there is no mechanism to invalidate an election like you suggest. The election is over, Trump won. That's a simple fact. Whether he stays in office may be a different matter.

 

[Belz...]

As it always has?

Speak for yourself, and let those with some moral fibre handle these things.

Evidence that Trump was involved?

You can't possibly be this sheltered. Of course you know, but you ignore it because it suits your bias. You've pretty much admitted that.

You don't think Obama firing him would have brought the same melt downs?

Why would it? Just wait until Comey says no charge will be made against Clinton and then fire him for overstepping his authority. He didn't do that. Trump's excuse is just that.

 

[phiwum]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/politics/grand-jury-fbi-russia/

Justice Department under Comey issued subpoena against Flynn, hours before he was fired?

Just a coincidence.

There's nothing there.

Look away!!!! Look away!!!!

Huh?

By the way, scuttlebutt is that the administration was looking for reasons to fire Comey for a week, so the explanation for the firing can't be something that happened yesterday.

 

[varwoche]

Why do you keep on insisting that someone must reach a conclusion given the lack of evidence? Investigators are free to do as they wish. If they make a claim, they are responsible for presenting evidence. Until then, I don't have a conclusion about who did what when.

We know for a fact that...

• Trump flat out lied about his relationship with Putin
• Trump flat out lied about his role in GOP platform concerning Ukraine
• Manafort flat out lied about his/Trump role in GOP platform
• Manafort flat out lied about his deep Russian relationships
• Flynn flat out lied about his Russian contacts
• Trump lied by omission about Flynn's contacts
• Sessions flat out lied about his Russian contacts
• Carter Page flat out lied about his Russian contacts
• Various campaign officials lied about Page's relationship with the campaign
• Roger Stone flat out lied about his Russian contacts
• Trump is pretending that Manafort was minimally involved in the campaign
• Trump remains evasive about Flynn to this day
• Trump Jr acknowledged significant Russian money coming into the business, but Trump now denies
• Trump openly encouraged Russia to hack Clinton

"Lack of evidence"? On Planet X maybe.

 

[a_unique_person]

I think that for the most part they haven't forgotten anything. Questioning Trump's motives for firing him now is not the same as suddenly deciding that his actions and behavior before had somehow become okay.

I could be wrong, but it's not every day the POTUS fires the head of the FBI.

 

[William Parcher]

Isn't the purpose of the whole forum to examine claims? That's why we have sections for various topics.

This forum has no mission statement or stated theme. Therefore it has no identifiable purpose.

 

[Stacko]

Comey's dismissal is not sitting well with the ranking Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

https://mobile.twitter.com/GlennThrush/status/862269645197373440

https://mobile.twitter.com/SenatorBurr/status/862091699534921729