“This is what tolerance looks like at UC Berkeley”

University of California Berkeley just cancelled an Ann Coulter speech, because of the violence of the anti-Free speech Black Bloc scum and and the Anti-FirstAmendement cretins.

there are your real Facists.
 
The Big Dog said:
University of California Berkeley just cancelled an Ann Coulter speech, because of the violence of the anti-Free speech Black Bloc scum and and the Anti-FirstAmendement cretins.

there are your real Facists.
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Do you mean Fascists?

Did the University of California Berkeley give "violence of the anti-Free speech
Black Bloc scum and the Anti-First Amendment cretins" as the reason for the
cancellation?
 
snoop_doxie said:
Do you mean Fascists?

Did the University of California Berkeley give "violence of the anti-Free speech
Black Bloc scum and the Anti-First Amendment cretins" as the reason for the
cancellation?
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fascists, yes. Sorry, did not have my specs on when I typed that.

Yes, potential violence is the reason they gave. Appalling
 
snoop_doxie said:
Do you mean Fascists?

Did the University of California Berkeley give "violence of the anti-Free speech
Black Bloc scum and the Anti-First Amendment cretins" as the reason for the
cancellation?
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Do you really require them to say those exact words? Most people can infer the reason rather easily.
 
The Big Dog said:
fascists, yes. Sorry, did not have my specs on when I typed that.

Yes, potential violence is the reason they gave. Appalling
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Geez, I just looked at that video that Stout provided.
Did anyone catch that woman that knocked that man on the head
(when he was looking away)?

And I did not know until just know that Anti fa was Anti First Amendment. :o

Yes, it is appalling that anyone cannot speak on a university campus because
of potential violence. I have a genuine dislike for Ann Coulter's politics, but I would not expect that dislike to turn violent at a speaking event.
 
sadhatter said:
Do you really require them to say those exact words? Most people can infer the reason rather easily.
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No, I do not require them to say those words.

I was poking at the Big Dog. Unnecessary.

I would not want that violence to come to my college, but if Ann Coulter
does not speak, then those in the Anti FA win.

They were able to shut down free speech with their violence.
 
The Big Dog said:
fascists, yes. Sorry, did not have my specs on when I typed that.

Yes, potential violence is the reason they gave. Appalling
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I don't know why they would invite Ann Coulter in the first place, but cancelling her is a real problem.

I don't like Trump, but I understand why he won. If you think it was a good idea to reward the black masked crowd this way, look in the mirror to see the reason Trump is president.

ETA: The "you" above is not meant to be The Big Dog. I'm agreeing (shudder) with him. This kind of political violence is bad news.
 
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caveman1917 said:
What did your post have to do with UC Berkeley?



I just did, unless you don't consider Trump himself a "Trumptard"? Besides, if you claim one party is winning then it's up to you to make the comparison.
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It's a knee-jerk red herring deployed whenever criticism of your group is made.
 
Meadmaker said:
Amen.

Somewhere along the line, some people on the left gave up being liberal.
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They're not liberal, at least not in the sense you and I understand the term. These guys are anarchists. They believe anarchy will somehow lead to the creation of a communist utopia. They are pro-violence, anti-speech, and given the chance they will more oppressive and violent than any system they want to replace.
 
Newtons Bit said:
Okay, so which one was the fascist and which one was the not-fascist guy?
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I'm still working on that myself. I'd tend to go with the guy in the DIY Darth Vader outfit but I'm unsure whether the Siracha sauce t-shirt has any special meaning.

Around here, those t-shirts mean you like hot sauce but they may signal something completely different on the east coast.
 
surreptitious57 said:
Getting into a fight was not the problem as she wanted to but not being able to control how it would end
Which is always a problem when ones opponents are equally as enthusiastic in wanting to inflict violence
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Yes, something tells me "antifa" might just end up regretting teaching "alt-right" to enjoy street fighting.
 
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Let's try and kill free speech and make solving things with violence the norm.

Morally repugnant strategy , but it might work, you know if the people in power didn't vastly out man, out gun, and have more battlefield experience than the antifa tools.

With free speech they get to keep demonstrating, if they convince everyone else to play their game, they get killed.

Antifa the only group that is striving as hard as they can to lose a fight.
 
Meadmaker said:
I don't know why they would invite Ann Coulter in the first place, but cancelling her is a real problem.
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In general, it's good to invite speakers with different viewpoints.

But, you're right, not Ann Coulter. I was speaking of adult political views. She is dreadfully stupid.

Nonetheless, she doesn't deserve this reaction to a talk on campus.
 
As long as these jerks succeed in getting conservative speakers removed from campus, the complaints about universities as almost completely liberal look that much more plausible.
 
phiwum said:
As long as these jerks succeed in getting conservative speakers removed from campus, the complaints about universities as almost completely liberal look that much more plausible.
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Do you think it only looks that way?
 
phiwum said:
In general, it's good to invite speakers with different viewpoints.

But, you're right, not Ann Coulter. I was speaking of adult political views. She is dreadfully stupid.

Nonetheless, she doesn't deserve this reaction to a talk on campus.
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Agreed. There are plenty of conservative speakers that are much more appropriate than Ann Coultermfor an intellectual environment. Coulter can be counted on to be strident and conservative on every single issue. In other words, she doesn't really put any thought into what she says except possibly, "How can I make them more angry?"

But shutting her down through violence is scary.
 
Stout said:
What you said was...."it looks like a bottle and it looks like she is holding it, but in fairness it may not be"

Is that the east coast way of acknowledging something is true ?
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Ok, fair enough. I see what you mean, but I didn't intend it that way. I was trying to underscore that you were assuming she was the aggressor because she had a deadly weapon, and that damning assumption hung on some tenuous evidence. I agree that it was very likely a bottle, but not that it drops the gavel on her being the vicious attacker and Cap'n Whitey being the innocent and noble defender.

That's not a strawman, that's a question.
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Again, fair enough. No, I don't think she was innocently enjoying an early refreshment and was unexpectedly attacked. I posted more than once that I think this was a mutual street brawl and none wore halos. But I see post after post about the bad old leftists, and the nazis are only criticized in passing ('oh, yeah, the marchers were also kind of wrong'). FFS, they imported bikers and freaking militias for this. Why do you (and others) not show equal contempt and criticism for them? Where is your outrage at the clear photos of neo-nazis actually attacking protesters?

Strange customs you have there on the east coast. knocking off peoples hats, holding your bottles like you'd hold a club. I must visit there someday.
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Do you think it is completely implausible that she was holding the bottle that way because a white supremacist was attacking her?
 
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