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Cont: President Trump: Part 3

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May want to turn on MSNBC
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...well...

and Twitter, if you are on, at #AMJoy
 
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Skeptic Ginger said:
The comments are alt-world bizarro. This can't be the real world. Who are these people?
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I think, at least for certain folks, the label "alt-right" needs to be replaced with "alt-reality".

Craig4 said:
Where the mind reels on healthcare is that the Republicans had years to work on this. There should have been a binder on a shelf containing their proposed healthcare law that their own party had already agreed on.
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I think it reveals how much of the past several years' attempts to repeal the ACA were nothing more than the GOP putting on a show. They probably always knew they never had a chance.

Then in comes Trump and it looks like they actually do have a chance. They have an "Oh, ****" moment and scramble to cobble something together, failing horribly.

I think that comment about Republicans being good a winning elections, but terrible at governing is not far off. It's like so many of them have no idea what their actual job is.
 
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Cl1mh4224rd said:
I think it reveals how much of the past several years' attempts to repeal the ACA were nothing more than the GOP putting on a show. They probably always knew they never had a chance.
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It's worse than that. I think they all know that a) it's good law (certainly not great or ideal but a solid first step in fixing the system) and b) it's good for their constituents. In other words, not only did they know they couldn't roll it back in procedural terms but I believe they knew that doing so would be bad for the country. It can't help that the vast majority of Republicans at least pretend to be Christians and that their Lord and Savior would never approve of denying health care to anyone.
 
Garrison said:
Ah but that's always the disturbing question with Trump, does he know he's lying or has he deluded himself into actually believing much of the nonsense he spouts?
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He is the most fickle cognitive agent ever encountered.
 
Mumbles said:
Just a news show paired with a feed...
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Yes, but for those of us who can't look at them now, what is the attraction? Live video of Trump, Pence, Bannon, Miller, Mnuchin, Conway, etc., all being marched off in handcuffs?
 
sts60 said:
Yes, but for those of us who can't look at them now, what is the attraction? Live video of Trump, Pence, Bannon, Miller, Mnuchin, Conway, etc., all being marched off in handcuffs?
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I don't think they make handcuffs small enough for Trump...
 
Garrison said:
Ah but not in Trump world, your just using Fake News to bring down a great man! Think of this in conspiracy theorist terms. How often on this board does some CT post a claim only to have it have it thoroughly debunked and yet still insist its true? They simply claim your part of the conspiracy and your evidence is made up. If you think of 'Trump is right' as being in the same class of idea as Apollo was a hoax or 9/11 was an inside job you can understand why exposing something Trump said as a lie has zero impact on these people.

Now of course there are people who recognize these things are lies and simply choose to ignore it for the sake of some agenda or aspiration, the Deplorables in other words.
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I hear you but... Trump world? While I don't expect to permeate the impermeable, I'm certainly not taking the lead from fact-free zealots as to language usage.
 
Craig4 said:
Where the mind reels on healthcare is that the Republicans had years to work on this. There should have been a binder on a shelf containing their proposed healthcare law that their own party had already agreed on. The House vote should have been a foregone conclusion with a plan for a reconciliation with the Senate. They've had years to come up with a plan.
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But that was never a GOP principle. They NEVER wanted to repeal and replace it. They just wanted to repeal it. This is the party that fought Social Security, Welfare, Medicare and Medicaid and bitch about all these programs to this very day.
 
This better not be true.

Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.

While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.

But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.
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BobTheCoward said:
I have no problem pointing out how short Germany has been in their commitments. As a nation that has made it a point to honor agreements, they dropped the ball on this one.
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It's not owed to the US but to their own military.
 
acbytesla said:
But that was never a GOP principle. They NEVER wanted to repeal and replace it. They just wanted to repeal it. This is the party that fought Social Security, Welfare, Medicare and Medicaid and bitch about all these programs to this very day.
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You could add, Unemployment Insurance. As Newt Gingrich says, "Why is the government paying people not to work?"
 
BobTheCoward said:
It doesn't say who the bill was meant to be paid to.

Even if it said US, the point still stands. Germans should be ashamed of themselves.
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Only if you assume that Trumps numbers stack up, do they?

If fact from the article:
While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.
But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.
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So in other words at absolute best Trump grossly inflated the figure, at worst it's another work of fiction for the Trumpista's to gobble up.
 
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newyorkguy said:
You could add, Unemployment Insurance. As Newt Gingrich says, "Why is the government paying people not to work?"
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Yet you can hardly find even a conservative economist that doesn't acknowledge that UI is good for the economy.
 
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