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Stacko said:
How has no Dem asked, "Why did Comey confirm Clinton probe but not Trump probe pre-election?" Almost makes you feel sorry for the fools that wanted insurance for everybody and worried about a POTUS under FBI investigation
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Also, they should ask about the pee pee tape. It would be fun to have a clip of Comey refusing to confirm or deny if it's real.
 
Stacko said:
His whole line of questioning was dumb.

Stewart, "Will you confirm this news story?"

Comey, "No."

Stewart, "Will you confirm this news story?"

Comey, "No."

Stewart, "Will you confirm this news story?"

Comey, "No."

Repeat ad nauseam.
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And now it's Adam Schiff's turn.

Schiff, "Will you confirm that Trump is under investigation?"

Comey, "No."

Schiff, "Will you confirm that Trump is under investigation?"

Comey, "No."

Schiff, "Will you confirm that Trump is under investigation?"

Comey, "No."

Repeat ad nauseam.
 
Hlafordlaes said:
Comey won't comment, unless it's HC two weeks before the election. So, that "no smear" rule is itself smeared.
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After all the, "Lock her up," chants, it's funny to hear Republicans bringing up that being under investigation is not the same as being guilty.
 
Guy talking now is doing his best to confuse the baseline level of Russian interference with the focused attack favoring Trump.
 
I've asked before and if it's been answered bear with me. The linked story here comes from the Washington Post, but the issue was reported on by many news outlets:
Trump admits to Russian hacking even as he attacks U.S. intelligence community

What changed Trump's mind?

He dismissed the claim that Russia had compromising information on him as "fake news." But something must have been said to him, or shown to him, that led him to finally concede Russian involvement. One explanation is that he was shown or told about Russian surveillance of Trump himself. I can't imagine anything else changing his mind. Digital footprints wouldn't have done it; it would have to be a smoking gun, IMO. Something simple that Donald could understand. The existence of video he hadn't known about, or possibly even the video itself, probably would have done it. But has he or anyone else ever said what changed his mind?
 
Stacko said:
You can pretend a third party can win all you want but America elections are effectively a contest between two parties at present. I doubt Russia gave any thought to anyone winning other than Hillary or Donald.
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Who's pretending anything? The distinction is real, and important. If the Russians tried to influence the outcome in order to defeat Hillary Clinton- obviously they would pick the person likely to defeat her (Trump, in this case) to aid- that does not indicate any fondness for Trump, only disdain for Clinton. OTOH, if they decided to aid Trumps campaign because they expect something in return from Trump, or because they feel Trump will harm the country in some way that another candidate wouldn't, the implications are different.
 
Gowdy is on a typical high horse that confuses the appearance of one thing with the reality of another. He's good, though, but he seems to be using words that he can spin to be on any winning side.
 
If Trump's genius 3-dimensional chess master plan in accusing Obama of wiretapping his phones was to get people to stop talking about his campaign's Russia connections and to make intelligence bigwigs deny that those connections were being investigated, it just backfired spectacularly.
 
As did Putin's supporting of Trump. It has made any softening of US policy toward Russia political Kryptonite for the GOP.
Some even feel that PUtin main goal was just causing disruption in the US Political System,with electing Trump a secondary goal.
 
A'isha said:
If Trump's genius 3-dimensional chess master plan in accusing Obama of wiretapping his phones was to get people to stop talking about his campaign's Russia connections and to make intelligence bigwigs deny that those connections were being investigated, it just backfired spectacularly.
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No, no, no. According to the Ponderers of All Things Trump, what's actually going on here is that he pointed to the "wiretaps" to get people to stop talking about his campaigns Russia connections PRECISELY because he'd figured out that the FBI would eventually go public with their investigation. See, they'll never actually charge him with anything because Hillary was never charged with anything, so once he gets past this, not only will he have proven that all other news is fake, but he'll be able to show that he needs to do away with the FBI & replace them with his hand picked agency.

Wheels within cubes.
 
dudalb said:
As did Putin's supporting of Trump. It has made any softening of US policy toward Russia political Kryptonite for the GOP.
Some even feel that PUtin main goal was just causing disruption in the US Political System,with electing Trump a secondary goal.
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We also learned that Russia hacked both GOP & Democratic email accounts but exploited only Democratic accounts. GOP in a very compromised position right now.
 
Benjamin Wittes from Lawfare has a good rundown on the hearing.

But that's reading a lot into a relatively small number of tea leaves. What is clear is that this was a very bad day for the President. In it, we learned that there is an open-ended Russia investigation with no timetable for completion, one that's going hang over Trump's head for a long time, and one to which the FBI director is entirely committed.
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