Split Thread the TM and anti-semitism

LSSBB said:
Forget it Dave. It's Apocalypsetown.
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Navigator said:
Essentially yes. In the truest meaning of the word. The veil is lifted.

If you are antisemitic, I strongly suggest that you think about things more deeply and find the way to lay that attitude aside...wake up and smell the roses, and understand Israel the way Israel understands Israel in relation to the role She is playing re the rest of the world.

iow

Examine the obvious,
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I ran your avatar's hieroglyphs through Tzara's Translator.
- "If Israel ruled the world beggars would ride".
 
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Navigator said:
Essentially yes. In the truest meaning of the word. The veil is lifted.

If you are antisemitic, I strongly suggest that you think about things more deeply and find the way to lay that attitude aside...wake up and smell the roses, and understand Israel the way Israel understands Israel in relation to the role She is playing re the rest of the world.

iow

Examine the obvious,
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Interesting. ..
 
Common Ancestors

NOTE: Not sure which web site did it, but got the pop up about how my computer is locked, etc; which does not go away until I went to "task manager" and stopped it. May of been a web site ad hit by accident, but the two web sites below "incogman." and "firstlightforum", looked like the kind of sites which could have adware, etc... (most likely I hit an ad while scrolling the pages)

9/11 truth and anti-semitism?
http://incogman.net/2008/02/50-top-reasons-why-911-was-an-inside-job/
Not sure how I found this web site... wait, I searched 50 reasons 9/11 was... or something.
Not a lot in common with the basic lies and BS of 9/11 truth; but then I did not waste much time checking more than NORAD, as I waded in the sewer of ignorance and bigotry.
http://www.911truth.org/the-top-40-reasons-to-doubt-the-offical-story/
Is 9/11 truth a covert anti-semitic lies-R-US thing...

Then I found a site that seemed to be slamming "incogman", but then appeared to be anti-semitism lite crazy, ... mixed with CTs and more 9/11 truth BS

https://firstlightforum.wordpress.com/israel-did-911-—-all-the-proof-in-the-world/

I was looking up how to edit video and fell into the sewer of BS... I have to go clean my computer.

How were 9/11 truth and anti-semitism conceived; a rape by Hate and Ignorance. Sharing a common ancestry.
 
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I just stumbled on an anti-semite who doesn't mind being called one:
https://truthandshadows.wordpress.c...ention-and-5-that-deserve-less/#comment-45798
sockpuppet2012 said:
The Israeli Mossad, Military and Government, along with traitorous Jews in the U.S. Government, Military, Intelligence and Mass Media did and covered-up and continue to cover-up 9-11.

They also employed some useful idiot Goyim for window dressing.

Bollyn proved who did it far beyond a reasonable doubt; he proved it conclusively.

The wholly Jewish controlled mass media have promoted the fraudulent “war on terror” in which millions of innocent people have died, and continue to die.

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I don’t mind being called an anti-semite.

The more I’m called an anti-semite, the more I know I’m speaking truth.

Truth is anti — “semitic”
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There won't be anyone replying against this, I am sure. Anti-semitism is very much okay with a majority of Twoofers.
 
Oystein said:
I just stumbled on an anti-semite who doesn't mind being called one:
https://truthandshadows.wordpress.c...ention-and-5-that-deserve-less/#comment-45798

There won't be anyone replying against this, I am sure. Anti-semitism is very much okay with a majority of Twoofers.
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The discussion continues.

A commenter "Brighton" advises not to focus on the Jews for tactical reasons, as not all Jews were involved, and not everyone involved was a Jew.

Sockpuppet2012 makes the following point then: "At the planning stage, which had to have taken years, if not decades, all the top conspirators had to be Jews. I don’t believe any Goyim would be trusted with such information, risking death-bed confessions, or a pang of conscience that might cause them to sabotage the plan."
There. He said it. Apparently, only Jews have no conscience. All of them.
He goes on:
"All the people who rigged the Buildings for demolition had to be loyal Jews in the Mossad, the Israeli Military and explosives and demolition experts…..I just can’t see Christian Zionists with their Scofield Bibles tucked under their arms while they’re placing explosives in the buildings."
You can't imagine this because you are a ********** up anti-semite, ******* :)

Thankfully, he documents how Steven E. Jones has been hanging with anti-semite Christopher Bollyn since at least 2006.


And then comes the bummer: Sockpuppet alerts us that Richard Gage has teamed up with anti-semites Kevin Barrett and Christopher Bollyn to visit the anti-semitic Nation of Islam - again in February 2017 - just a bit over 2 weeks ago!
https://www.noi.org/911revisited/

It is thus perfectly official now:

Richard Gage and AE911Truth are knowingly and willingly in bed and *********** with raving anti-semites!

I'll go one further with my private opinion: IMO, Richard Gage IS an anti-semite.


"Brighton" then actually speaks out against sockpuppet's anti-semitic rant and agenda.

A commenter calling themselves "captivescientist" (who, a bit later, calls Gen. Albert Stubblebine "extremely credible") weighs in, and we learn that a fake acronym has been coined as a brief label for all anti-semitic 9/11 CTs: ZIHOP.

dennis weighs in an reports two "excommunications" at rival twoofer sites. This is now getting us into the "schisms" thread.
 
Oystein said:
...Richard Gage has teamed up with anti-semites Kevin Barrett and Christopher Bollyn to visit the anti-semitic Nation of Islam - again in February 2017 - just a bit over 2 weeks ago!
https://www.noi.org/911revisited/

It is thus perfectly official now:

Richard Gage and AE911Truth are knowingly and willingly in bed and *********** with raving anti-semites!

I'll go one further with my private opinion: IMO, Richard Gage IS an anti-semite.
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I cannot find any mention of Gage's trip to NoI - neither on https://www.facebook.com/ae911truth/ nor on http://www.ae911truth.org/
What's there to hide?
 
It is indeed interesting that Gage has not publicized his appearance at the NoI, considering his enthusiasm for it the last time around (in 2012). His reticence might be explained by his fellow panelists this time around--Kevin Barrett and Christopher Bollyn.

Barrett is a longtime kook; his specialty in the past has been imagining the show trials of prominent 9-11 Troof debunkers. Well, actually he usually skips the trial and goes right to the execution. Ordinarily I might feel a little pride in being on Kevin's mental gibbet list, but he's put about 1/2 the country up there at one point or another.

Bollyn is truly a whack job; I did not know he was back in the country.

Both of them are Holocaust deniers.
 
Brainster said:
It is indeed interesting that Gage has not publicized his appearance at the NoI, considering his enthusiasm for it the last time around (in 2012). His reticence might be explained by his fellow panelists this time around--Kevin Barrett and Christopher Bollyn.

Barrett is a longtime kook; his specialty in the past has been imagining the show trials of prominent 9-11 Troof debunkers. Well, actually he usually skips the trial and goes right to the execution. Ordinarily I might feel a little pride in being on Kevin's mental gibbet list, but he's put about 1/2 the country up there at one point or another.

Bollyn is truly a whack job; I did not know he was back in the country.

Both of them are Holocaust deniers.
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Looks like Bollyn was spouting off in Brooklyn last September.

Is he still subject to a warrant?
 
LSSBB said:
Looks like Bollyn was spouting off in Brooklyn last September.

Is he still subject to a warrant?
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Dunno. As of 2010 Bollyn was still writing as if he were in hiding somewhere:

The heavily armed three-man undercover tactical squad - who refused to identify themselves - invaded the Bollyn home, attacked, handcuffed, and then TASERed Bollyn on the spot where the lawnmower is seen. The loss of their family home has been very hard on the Bollyn kids.
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Considering that Bollyn was in fact found guilty, I'm guessing that the statute of limitations does not apply (just as it does not apply to Roman Polanski).
 
Brainster said:
...fellow panelists this time around--Kevin Barrett and Christopher Bollyn.
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Both of them are Holocaust deniers.
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I do recall having seen evidence that Barrett is a Holocaust revisionist/denier, but do not recall having seen the same for Bollyn. Do you happen to have such evidence at your fingertips?
 
https://www.adl.org/blog/christopher-bollyn-september-11-anti-semitism

adl.org said:
Bollyn has also written numerous other articles on his website that accuse Jews of controlling the media and government. Bollyn has attended Holocaust denial conferences in the U.S. and one in Russia in 2002. He is a former writer for the anti-Semitic conspiracy-oriented newspaper American Free Press and its predecessor, The Spotlight, both published by anti-Semite and Holocaust denier Willis Carto. American Free Press fired Bollyn in 2006, after accusing him of submitting false stories and of disloyalty to the paper.

In 2007, Bollyn was found guilty of misdemeanor aggravated assault and resisting arrest, after a confrontation with police officers in front of his home in the Chicago area. He never appeared for sentencing and has since is presumed to be living in Europe with his wife, a Swedish citizen, and children.
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Not much, but that's what I had read.
 
Oystein said:
I do recall having seen evidence that Barrett is a Holocaust revisionist/denier, but do not recall having seen the same for Bollyn. Do you happen to have such evidence at your fingertips?
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There's this post from Sword of Truth which bears serious study in context. Jim Hoffman has a bit to say about Bollyn's associations with the American Free Press and neo-Nazism here, which stops short of actual evidence of Holocaust revisionism or denial. It looks to me like Bollyn is careful not to actually commit on this issue; one can only guess at why he doesn't want to commit.

Dave
 
Thanks, guys.
It seems thus that Bollyn is smart enough not to speak out on the holocaust, and we would hence be smart not to call him an HDer outright - agreed? For the evidence appears limited to association?
 
Oystein said:
It seems thus that Bollyn is smart enough not to speak out on the holocaust, and we would hence be smart not to call him an HDer outright - agreed? For the evidence appears limited to association?
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He's got as close as possible to saying it without actually saying it, I think. So it might be reasonable to describe him as someone who carefully stops just short of Holocaust denial.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
There's this post from Sword of Truth which bears serious study in context.
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Got around to reading.
Bollyn is very much, and certainly willfully, inconsistent with his standards. On one hand, he feigns ignorance of the reality of the holocaust because he has not personally seen the physical evidence like ovens and gas chambers. On the other hand, he claims to know that 600,000 people perished in the bombing of Dresden because he claims to have seen evidence in Dresden, and has talked to one eyewittness (a Waffen-SS officer). Of course it is impossible for him to have seen physical evidence to prove 600,000 victims, or any other nunber, when he visited Dresden in 2004, for such evidence did not exist any longer; nor could the Waffen-SS officer (Kuklane) have determined any credible number even if he truly was there in 1945.

Of course the actual number of Dresden deaths was no more than 25,000 - Bollyn is eager to believe false numbers if they suit his anti-semtitic, pro-Nazi taste, and equally eager to feign agnosticism on the true extent of the destruction of the Jews, when plenty of evidence can be known.

So yes, a closet HDer he is.
 
Hello Criteria,

nice to see you back!
Several months ago, you showed your own utter lack of interest in truth and facts when you ran away from a question, like you always do when you know the answer is inconvenient to your pretended beliefs:
Oystein said:
Can you name a 9/11 "debunker" who is an antisemite? They are far and away the majority here on the ISF. Is there even one anti-semiticv debunker here?
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Perhaps now, 4 months later, you can make yourself give straight and honest answers to these two questions:
Can you name a 9/11 "debunker" who is an antisemite?
Is there even one anti-semitic debunker here on ISF?

Remember that I clearly identified a couple of anti-semites among the very few Truthers who posted in this thread - which would be anecdotal support for my claim that you feign having a problem with: Anti-semitism is very much okay with a majority of Twoofers.


ETA: Criteria, do YOU have a problem with Richard Gage speaking at a Nation of Islam event, alongside Kevin Barrett and Chistopher Bollyn, given that NoI is an anti-semitic organisation, and Barrett and Bollyn are well-known career anti-semites and holocaust deniers, earning their living with professional anti-semitism? A simple, straight and honest "yes" or "no" will do for the moment.
Failing to answer this question will be interpreted as a "no, I [Criteria] am very much okay with anti-semitism and my 9/11 Twoof hero Gage openly allying himself with professional anti-semites."
 
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