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[The Man]

I don't think so. Dark just means dark. Look at how much speculation abounds on the subject. I read about a year ago that a couple of cosmologists have speculated that CDM is a special form of hydrogen (of all things)! But to be clear, I'm skeptical that dark matter is entirely hydrino.

As already explained to you your thinking would be incorrect. "DarK" in reference to dark matter specifically means no or very limited interaction with the electromagnetic force. Forming diatomic molecules or compounds, the bound state of negative electrons to a positive nucleus, emission, absorption and scattering of electromagnetic radiation are all significant interactions with the electromagnetic force. Now if you want to assert, as it seems from your assertion above, that such dark matter (non or weakly electromagnetically interacting matter) doesn't actually exist, that would still mean that hydrinos can't be dark matter.

 

[aleCcowaN]

So far, the reaction chamber is not closed ; it consists of an open (at that top) graphite sphere enclosed in a large transparent glove box, which vents the vapours and the substantial heat out.

At the bottom of the graphite sphere is where two streams of molten silver are injected and intersect, and where the hydrino reaction mostly occurs.

The solar cells are not typical solar cells. They are called concentrated photovoltaics (CPV). Such are used in those solar farms where "tens of square metres" of mirrors reflect and concentrate their collected light on a single CPV cell. Not only can they tolerate extremely high intensity light and temperatures, they are also more efficient than regular solar cells at converting light energy to electricity.

Can you point which part of this Mill's machine is each?

And yes, I stand corrected. I've checked and you don't require tens of square metres of photovoltaic panels but just 3 or 4 square metres for a 1 MW output, provided you have a hell of a heat sink and dissipaters to handle it. Any technical reference, BLP video, photograph, diagrams you can provide in support of your verbal massaging?

 

[The Man]

As much as I sometimes loathe Wiki:

The constituents of "cold" dark matter are unknown. Possibilities range from large objects like MACHOs (such as black holes[82]) or RAMBOs (such as clusters of brown dwarfs), to new particles such as WIMPs and axions.

And that's just the 'cold' stuff. As for the two cosmologists who posited a special form of hydrogen for dark matter, I will try to look that up as time permits. Or you could look yourself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_dark_matter

Composition[edit]
Dark matter is detected through its gravitational interactions with ordinary matter and radiation. As such, it is very difficult to determine what the constituents of cold dark matter are. The candidates fall roughly into three categories:

• Axions are very light particles with a specific type of self-interaction that makes them a suitable CDM candidate.[6][7] Axions have the theoretical advantage that their existence solves the Strong CP problem in QCD, but have not been detected.

• MACHOs or Massive Compact Halo Objects are large, condensed objects such as black holes, neutron stars, white dwarfs, very faint stars, or non-luminous objects like planets. The search for these consists of using gravitational lensing to see the effect of these objects on background galaxies. Most experts believe that the constraints from those searches rule out MACHOs as a viable dark matter candidate.[8][9][10][11][12][13]

• WIMPs: Dark matter is composed of Weakly Interacting Massive Particles. There is no currently known particle with the required properties, but many extensions of the standard model of particle physics predict such particles. The search for WIMPs involves attempts at direct detection by highly sensitive detectors, as well as attempts at production by particle accelerators. WIMPs are generally regarded as the most promising dark matter candidates.[9][11][13] The DAMA/NaI experiment and its successor DAMA/LIBRA have claimed to directly detect dark matter particles passing through the Earth, but many scientists remain skeptical, as no results from similar experiments seem compatible with the DAMA results.

Hydrios fit none of those categories.

 

[markie]

He is ignored because he is a scam artist, has all the signal of a scam, does not have anything published which can be verified by independent third party, has obvious errors in his theory article (i know of only one about hydrino theory) as mentioned up thread, and none of the theory mentioned works with Rydberg lines, even for H atoms.

Basically in what Mills produced (and the other guy from which the name escape me with his ridiculous deformed spherical electron orbitals) there is no science whatsoever.

If he REALLY had something, he would have long published a proper way to generate such "hydrino" in a consistent manner. But he does not, because hey he pretend he has to protect his IP and is near getting a generator done and wait for a few more month and so forth. Typical of scam artist.

See, this is why you will never find for us an article properly detailing the way hydrino are made.

And after decades of the same scam.... People still "invest". They see some glowy sutff ,, maybe some plasma, are wooed, make no due diligence, and lose their money to that scam pit.

Where are you getting this information?

none of the theory mentioned works with Rydberg lines, even for H atoms

Quite the contrary is true.

And why do you say this?

See, this is why you will never find for us an article properly detailing the way hydrino are made.

Mill's experimental setups are well described in his papers. Go look for yourself.

 

[Darat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_dark_matter




Hydrios fit none of those categories.

Well they are both very hard to detect directly.....

 

[Darat]

And it all keeps going back to the fact that he has - according to his many many claims - had hydrino power generators for decades but still hasn't managed to get one into anyone's hands.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Silver was chosen because it's a great conductor and because it doesn't have oxidation issues at high temperatures, among other things. The special refractory oxide is simply carried by the molten silver, it's oxygen combines with H2 to form water, the water is ionized upon catalyzing hydrino formation, and the oxide get's its oxygen back.

I have to congratulate you in making a sentence that doesn't violate the conservation of energy.

Let's see deeper on that. How do you know that «water is ionized upon catalyzing hydrino formation» and not just because of thermolisis? We have been talking here of temperatures around 3K K, haven't we? What is what you are describing? A chamber made of graphite, streams of molten silver as a conveyor belt of Mysterious Oxide™, tungsten electrodes, hydrogen? How can you tell hydrino formation from some kind of occam-s-razor redox pump?

[Allow me one week to reply to all your messages, markie. They are so juicy]

 

[markie]

None of the theory mills advanced would explain why a photon would not be absorbed, while another proton or electron would interact. In fact the pretense that upthread that he could detect hydrino by their spectrum, belie that statement of yours.

e.g. sees R. L. Mills and P. Ray, \Spectral emission of fractional quantum energy levels of atomic
hydrogen from a helium-hydrogen plasma and the implications for dark matter," Int. J.
Hydrogen Energy 27 (2002) 301

Now you are really pulling stuff at random.

You are not distinguishing between the formation of hydrino, which has a spectral emission, and already existing hydrino, which does not.

 

[halleyscomet]

Hydrino does not have an extra electron, just one. For all intents and purposes it has the same mass as hydrogen. However, as you allude, Mills says it can take on an extra electron, and this 'hydrino hydride' can be reactive and form apparently very stable compounds. Frankly this is an area I know very little about. I'll see if I can find information on this and report back.

That means the claims about Hydrinos being inert are a flat out lie.

What happens to a hydrino when it absorbs enough energy to pop that electron out of the lower electron shell back to its regular orbit?

Does it displace the extra electron in the regular electron shell or eject the electron completely?

If it displaces the extra electron then it will blast apart any molecule the hydrino has been incorporated into.

The Mills fans are spreading a lot of ******** about Hydrinos and dressing up their misunderstanding of chemistry and the Mills theories in wobbly-wibbly vague nonsense about it being "unexplored" or "too new."

The Mills theories are quite simple, but people inject a lot of wishful thinking and fantasy land nonsense into it so they can project wishful thinking about physics onto it.

 

[halleyscomet]

You are not distinguishing between the formation of hydrino, which has a spectral emission, and already existing hydrino, which does not.

If one has a spectral omission and the other does not then they're not the same element.

 

[The Man]

Good points. Don't forget neutrinos. Perhaps one hundred trillion stream through our bodies at any given second.

Sure, there should be reasonable caution. If Mills and his long time coworkers or their children started suffering from a mysterious malady, I'd be concerned. As it is now, i'm not expecting any negative assessments.

Ah, so the safety testing amounts to 'let's expose coworkers and their children over long periods of time and see if any "mysterious malady" crops up'. That's not anywhere near "reasonable caution".

 

[markie]

I have done research in chemistry and quantum physic a while ago.

This is pure horse crap of somebody having no idea whatsoever what research entail.

We are always , ALWAYS searching for hitherto unknown part of QM of chemistry, because reporting an experiment which lead to know result only works if you report the result with better precision and there are few funding for that. We don't "plod" our specialty in fact even 20 years ago we actively sought other specialty to find possibly something which has not be found yet , by combining specialties. I spent more time on looking for new stuff and reading what other teams did than I spent researching for old crusty plodding. Plodding is what you do pre-doc, mostly learning the rope. Afterward you never really plow old known field, except to verify your own result against known data.

That is why we search in literature for the interesting stuff which is out of the way.
That is why also incidentally there were so many team jumping on cold fusion after the initial "discovery", and the immense disappointment when it turned out P&F cheated their results !

Note that fringe : can also mean "completely crackpot stuff without evidence" then even that you are wrong , that is why there is always so many scientist , at least in the initial push, of a scam. "just in case". Heck do you know how many of us were skeptic waiting patiently for Steorn ? Or watched the "jury" ?

You have no clue on what research entail.

You exaggerate. Very much of science is done by plodding, incrementally increasing knowledge. I'm glad you had the opportunity to look for something truly novel back in the day.

 

[markie]

Yep. And since most of those neutrinos come from the sun, all life on earth has evolved within that constant stream. So we can be pretty sure it's not unduly harmful, and in any case there's no way to prevent it even if we found out it was.

Are you suggesting that the situation is similar for hydrinos? That there is an ambient cosmic hydrino flux here on earth's surface? In that case, what happens to Mills's claims to have produced hydrinos and to have detected the hydrinos thus produced?

Opening a window in daytime is not the same as inventing the light bulb.




Sure, it's not as if any mysterious malady has become vastly more prevalent in the decades since Mills claims to have started producing hydrino, right?

I'm not expecting any either, because there is no credible evidence hydrino exists. But if Mills's contraptions did produce it, and we'd know that without doubt the moment they started producing marketable net power, he'd need more than a few healthy accidentally exposed co-workers to prove their safety. Every living thing on earth is at stake. Heck, even inert matter is at stake. Effects small enough to be difficult to detect under lab conditions could still have massive global impacts on, for instance, geological or meteorological processes.

(The plot of the disaster movie 2012 is based on the premise of neutrinos suddenly starting to interact with earth's core and heating it up, causing massive volcanic eruptions and ultimately a global flood. That's physically implausible, and if it somehow did happen it would be outside of human cause or control. But change the script only slightly, replacing "neutrinos" with "hydrinos" and replacing the phrase "from the sun" with "from BLP power plants" and it becomes cautionary!)

That's the second time you have implicated hydrinos as the cause of autism. Please. The extreme rise in autism rates is disturbing and vexing, but let's be reasonable.

 

[markie]

Given «those 3V or thereabouts», can you provide more details on those fabulous commercial capacitors that produce an output of something between 500 to 50,000 amperes* so they «deliver very short bursts or pulses of power, in magnitude comparable to a hair drier»? Are they superconductive or just plain electrolytic? Can you link their specifications? It's the external circuit superconductive too? How many of them are used? Because, you know, that seems to follow the scientific principles of tomfoolerology.

* It's difficult to model the equivalent resistance of those gizmos so they can produce such absurd short burst, especially when any external circuit would be so reluctant to get that pulse. While analysing its transient behaviour my pencil dropped from my hand. It's the laughs.

Glad you're having a good time. Now take those giggles to the BLP website and have a look for yourself on the specifics of the capacitors.

 

[The Man]

Well they are both very hard to detect directly.....

So is how much money I have, unfortunately none of my creditors seem to be willing to accept the concept of "Dark Money" (non or weakly fiduciarily interacting money).

 

[Andy_Ross]

That's the second time you have implicated hydrinos as the cause of autism. Please. The extreme rise in autism rates is disturbing and vexing, but let's be reasonable.

Yes lets be reasonable.
None of the properties are known because they don't exist.
Blondlot had more evidence for his N Rays.

 

[markie]

Can you point which part of this Mill's machine is each?

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And yes, I stand corrected. I've checked and you don't require tens of square metres of photovoltaic panels but just 3 or 4 square metres for a 1 MW output, provided you have a hell of a heat sink and dissipaters to handle it. Any technical reference, BLP video, photograph, diagrams you can provide in support of your verbal massaging?

That is not a working machine. Mills doesn't have one yet. So apart from the graphite dome and base, I expect the first working product will look very different. The piping I presume leads into and out of the base, to keep it water cooled.

The area of photovoltaic required for 1MW is a variable aspect of the design and operation. I don't know exactly how close the panels are to the emitting sphere, nor how hot and emissive the sphere will get. They are just not there yet. I expect the first operational SunCell to be much lower power than 1MW.

 

[markie]

And it all keeps going back to the fact that he has - according to his many many claims - had hydrino power generators for decades but still hasn't managed to get one into anyone's hands.

Thermacore had Mill's aqueous cells in their facilities for a while in the early 1990s. Those cells would run for months, producing excess heat. Thermacore has a patent on the cell.

 

[Darat]

Thermacore had Mill's aqueous cells in their facilities for a while in the early 1990s. Those cells would run for months, producing excess heat. Thermacore has a patent on the cell.

So where are they?

 

[MikeG]

Thermacore had Mill's aqueous cells in their facilities for a while in the early 1990s. Those cells would run for months, producing excess heat. Thermacore has a patent on the cell.

Were they plugged in to the mains at the time?