“This is what tolerance looks like at UC Berkeley”

Argumemnon said:
Where's the dishonesty? The two aren't mutually-exclusive, and Stewart for one never denied having a political bias.
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He has often hid behind his "hey, I'm just a comedian" shtick when he has been called out for misleading editing or propagating falsehoods (which take root, by the way).
 
sunmaster14 said:
Yeah, it shows how dishonest Stewart and Colbert are. Sure, they can be very funny (or at least Stewart can), but they are clearly very political people who use their celebrity status and platform to advocate for progressive policies. Both of them would certainly pass up a good joke (or make a bad one) for the "cause."
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They're not dishonest at all. ****, Stewart even admitted as much in his interview with Chris Wallace. But, as he flatly stated, the joke comes first. He and Wallace perform different functions; there is no equivalence. These guys are comics with a political viewpoint, and that's what they say they are. They advocate politics in the same fashion as Coulter and Limbaugh.
 
The yelling and screaming at UC is par for the course, but when physical assaults enter the mix it's time to shut down the festivities.

In California in general and Berkeley in particular, the PTB have pretty much come to the conclusion that LE intervention will only make matters worse so enforcement is limited to containment of the
protesters/rioters/anarchists/******** in question.

I don't want any return to the days of Bull Conner, but a bunch of the AIQ's in Berkeley could benefit from a little wooden therapy.
 
Argumemnon said:
What "huh?"? You said that you think others dislike you because they can't refute your points. I'm pointing out the hubris of that statement. Maybe they dislike you because of your attitude, and absolutely can refute your points, but you can't see it because you can't refute their points and can't see through your bias, leading you to pretend like it's the other way around. Just maybe.
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Maybe, but I doubt it.

...or maybe we can stop trying to throw stones at each other and, you know, just argue the actual topic.
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I throw stones when people annoy me. Unfortunately, in order to avoid a suspension, I have to bounce them off of a wall, the floor, and the leg of a table before ricocheting back towards the source of my annoyance while I look the other way and start whistling.
 
sunmaster14 said:
He has often hid behind his "hey, I'm just a comedian" shtick when he has been called out for misleading editing or propagating falsehoods (which take root, by the way).
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Pizzagate is propagated and has taken root in certain circles. How do you prevent stupid people from believing stupid things?
 
acbytesla said:
So clearly this is a subjective position. I think it is immoral not to provide a path to citizenship to long term illegal aliens because we are accomplices in them breaking our immigration laws.
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No. If they are here illegally, they should not get citizenship. There must be consequences for breaking the law.

I'm open to the argument for providing them legal resident status (contingent on fixing a number of related issues), but I see no moral imperative of any kind to grant them citizenship.
 
Ziggurat said:
No. If they are here illegally, they should not get citizenship. There must be consequences for breaking the law.

I'm open to the argument for providing them legal resident status (contingent on fixing a number of related issues), but I see no moral imperative of any kind to grant them citizenship.
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We disagree then.
 
Argumemnon said:
I think you're making that up.



Citation, please.
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The first thing I found was about liberals getting mad at him for making fun of the Obamacare rollout. There's a lot of analysis of his "just a comedian" shtick from around that time. But I guarantee you that he's hidden behind that same line when people have complained about misleading editing done to make fun of people (usually Republicans and conservatives). And the amount and level of misleading editing his show does is mind-boggling.


That's what we've been trying to tell you for a long time.
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No, I'm referring specifically to Jon Stewart's Daily Show. Something like 1/4 of all people under the age of 30 got almost 100% of their news from that show.
 
sunmaster14 said:
No, I'm referring specifically to Jon Stewart's Daily Show. Something like 1/4 of all people under the age of 30 got almost 100% of their news from that show.
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And to think they still knew more about the issues then the average Fox News viewer.
 
It’s Not Your Speech, Milo

CrimethInc said:
On Wednesday, February 1, noted misogynist and Islamophobe Milo Yiannopoulos was scheduled to speak at the University of California at Berkeley. Fierce protests forced the university to cancel the event, prompting much handwringing about free speech.

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Resume said:
They're not dishonest at all. ****, Stewart even admitted as much in his interview with Chris Wallace. But, as he flatly stated, the joke comes first. He and Wallace perform different functions; there is no equivalence. These guys are comics with a political viewpoint, and that's what they say they are. They advocate politics in the same fashion as Coulter and Limbaugh.
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Right, and this is a lie. If Republicans or conservatives don't do anything mockable in any given week (unlikely, I realize, but it has happened), then Jon Stewart is about as funny as cancer.
 
sunmaster14 said:
Right, and this is a lie. If Republicans or conservatives don't do anything mockable in any given week (unlikely, I realize, but it has happened), then Jon Stewart is about as funny as cancer.
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You can mock anything. Thus, comedy.
 
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