Disgraceful! Richard Spencer Sucker-Punched While Giving Interview

[caveman1917]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo

That does not even begin to approach what would be required as evidence for your claim.

Show me something that anarchy produces. Because the only thing I can ever find, and in fact the only thing even YOU talk about anarchy actually achieving, is the destruction of property.

Your failure to find something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Where have you looked so far?

 

[Ziggurat]

That does not even begin to approach what would be required as evidence for your claim.

Of course it begins to. It's certainly not a full proof, but that would take more time than is worth investing here.

Your failure to find something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

True. I can't know for certainty that leprechauns don't exist either. But it is quite curious that you can't provide any examples.

OK, I lied. It's not curious at all. It's so predictable it's boring.

 

[caveman1917]

Of course it begins to. It's certainly not a full proof, but that would take more time than is worth investing here.

It really doesn't even begin to. Your methodology is just a post hoc ergo propter hoc. By your standards you can claim that capitalism and markets eradicated smallpox.

True. I can't know for certainty that leprechauns don't exist either. But it is quite curious that you can't provide any examples.

Your claim, your burden of proof, it's not up to me to prove you wrong.

 

[sadhatter]

Not when he gets punched in the face and made to look a fool. Spencer loses.

Deal.

No he doesn't actually.

While people on the extreme left sit in an echo chamber and applaud this action this idiot comes off as the rational victim to those not predisposed to using the word "woke" but who don't keep very politically educated.

Surround yourself with the fantasy that most people think like you do, reality is getting very ugly because of it, but that's okay because, feelings or something.

 

[caveman1917]

No he doesn't actually.

Evidence?

 

[theprestige]

Not when he gets punched in the face and made to look a fool. Spencer loses.

Deal.

I think Spencer wins, actually. Think about how he gets to spin this.

Masked cowards try to intimidate him in his exercise of free speech. He abides by the law and follows due process. Criminal thugs try to silence him but he will not be silenced. And society is on his side.

Really, these kinds of attacks give Spencer the best of both worlds: He gets to don the mantle of martyr, and he's still alive to capitalize on his martyr status with his followers. And the worst part is that these attacks didn't even suppress his ideas.

http://www.drodd.com/images13/deal-with-it-gif26.gif

 

[Ziggurat]

It really doesn't even begin to. Your methodology is just a post hoc ergo propter hoc. By your standards you can claim that capitalism and markets eradicated smallpox.

In a sense they did. The wealth afforded by capitalism and markets allows for significant resources to be devoted to research. It's no accident that capitalist societies dominate the scientific fields.

Your claim, your burden of proof, it's not up to me to prove you wrong.

That sounds like an excuse for the fact that you can't. Nevertheless, there are no productive anarchist groups anywhere. They simply don't exist, and never have. Individual anarchists, to the extent that they're productive, can only be so while operating within a capitalist system that affords them the opportunity to produce.

 

[caveman1917]

In a sense they did. The wealth afforded by capitalism and markets allows for significant resources to be devoted to research.

Cool story.

It's no accident that capitalist societies dominate the scientific fields.

Given that pretty much all current societies are capitalist it kind of is.

That sounds like an excuse for the fact that you can't. Nevertheless, there are no productive anarchist groups anywhere. They simply don't exist, and never have. Individual anarchists, to the extent that they're productive, can only be so while operating within a capitalist system that affords them the opportunity to produce.

Again, the practices of how many anarchist groups have you observed so as to conclude that anarchist groups only destroy private property and never do anything productive?

As if it's impossible for destroying private property to be something productive, but let's just nevermind that.

 

[dudalb]

I don't know who to blame the most for the mess this thread has become;the guy who took it over or the people who fell right into his trap.

 

[Lorentz]

I don't know who to blame the most for the mess this thread has become;the guy who took it over or the people who fell right into his trap.

I may be flattering myself here, but am I 'the guy who took it over'?

 

[Eddie Dane]

I don't know who to blame the most for the mess this thread has become;the guy who took it over or the people who fell right into his trap.

It just got derailed into a discussion about Caveman's special brand of Anarchism.

I asked what is political philosophy was, and here we are.

 

[Thermal]

I think Spencer wins, actually. Think about how he gets to spin this.

Masked cowards try to intimidate him in his exercise of free speech. He abides by the law and follows due process. Criminal thugs try to silence him but he will not be silenced. And society is on his side.

Really, these kinds of attacks give Spencer the best of both worlds: He gets to don the mantle of martyr, and he's still alive to capitalize on his martyr status with his followers. And the worst part is that these attacks didn't even suppress his ideas.

http://www.drodd.com/images13/deal-with-it-gif26.gif

You think? I have only seen him gone from a semi-obscure racist to national laughingstock. Last month I would have thought it borderline unthinkable to attempt to justify a street assault, yet because of Spencer's level of revulsion being thrust into the spotlight, I find myself doing so. I think if anything, it detracts from the credibility of the alt-right, as they are now seen more transparently as Nazi-ish, rather than their public pretense of ultra-conservativism.

 

[Thermal]

No he doesn't actually.

While people on the extreme left sit in an echo chamber and applaud this action this idiot comes off as the rational victim to those not predisposed to using the word "woke" but who don't keep very politically educated.

Surround yourself with the fantasy that most people think like you do, reality is getting very ugly because of it, but that's okay because, feelings or something.

How do you figure the hilited? Where has he been portrayed as rational or a victim? I have only seen his plight discussed as 'Is it okay to punch a Nazi?'

Also, I don't understand a word of the rest.

 

[theprestige]

You think? I have only seen him gone from a semi-obscure racist to national laughingstock. Last month I would have thought it borderline unthinkable to attempt to justify a street assault, yet because of Spencer's level of revulsion being thrust into the spotlight, I find myself doing so. I think if anything, it detracts from the credibility of the alt-right, as they are now seen more transparently as Nazi-ish, rather than their public pretense of ultra-conservativism.

Look at it from the point of view of Spencer's followers: If society were against them, why does the vigilante have to don a mask?

 

[Thermal]

Look at it from the point of view of Spencer's followers: If society were against them, why does the vigilante have to don a mask?

Good point, hadn't looked at it that way. I've been assuming that the attacker was not targeting Spencer specifically, but was out for general chaos (#disruptj20), happened to recognize Spencer and took a free shot. AFAIK, there was no coordinated plan to make a spectacle of Spencer on camera. White supremacists, as they unabashedly claim to be, might have some familiarity with masking themselves in public:

 

[Elagabalus]

I may be flattering myself here, but am I 'the guy who took it over'?

Nope! Now, get back to work on those transformations ...!

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Who menaced her for these actions?

Can you retain more than 1 or 2 replies back in your memory or no?

Because I'm not a fan of repeating myself.

Is this person I've described a valid target for getting a brick through her shop window (in a totally non-violent manner of course ).

 

[Delphic Oracle]

Is that like how atheism is a "belief system" because it does not recognize the belief in god?



Hundreds of thousands of people in the so-called "US" die each year due to poverty. Poverty is, by definition, the state of people who your belief system about "private property" fails to assign enough things to so as to sustain their life. No wonder you need such violent gangs to enforce that belief system for you.

Other countries which feature private property provide care for the vulnerable.

You're cherry picking.

 

[Ziggurat]

Again, the practices of how many anarchist groups have you observed so as to conclude that anarchist groups only destroy private property and never do anything productive?

You could disprove me so easily with a single example.

And yet you don't.

Because you can't.

Because there isn't even a single example.

 

[Jules Galen]

I think Spencer wins, actually. Think about how he gets to spin this.

Masked cowards try to intimidate him in his exercise of free speech. He abides by the law and follows due process. Criminal thugs try to silence him but he will not be silenced. And society is on his side.

Really, these kinds of attacks give Spencer the best of both worlds: He gets to don the mantle of martyr, and he's still alive to capitalize on his martyr status with his followers. And the worst part is that these attacks didn't even suppress his ideas.
http://www.drodd.com/images13/deal-with-it-gif26.gif

Liberal Weenie thinking.

Punch a guy in the Face....and he looks the fool.

That's the deal.