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The Big Dog said:
You have had experiences with Black Bloc protesters that are different? Well do tell!

Considering that Black Bloc protesters have one major defining characteristic (being total asshats) it seems hard to imagine (running up and cold cocking someone and running away is pretty well par for the course), but I wait with eagerness to hear tales of Black Bloc protesters stopping their antics to allow a family of "so called" ducks to walk by or something.

the stage, as it were, is yours....
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But what happens? Do our anecdotes cancel each other out? Does the one with the coolest story get believed? Do we go with word count?

If we are going to just throw the concept of evidence out the window id like to know what the new victory conditions are.
 
sadhatter said:
But what happens? Do our anecdotes cancel each other out? Does the one with the coolest story get believed? Do we go with word count?

If we are going to just throw the concept of evidence out the window id like to know what the new victory conditions are.
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Oh gosh, I'd be delighted if, you know, you explained what you meant by different.

I mean you say that and the first thing I thought was "he was not dealing with the *********** Black bloc."

But maybe I am all wet about that!

Looking forward to it!
 
caveman1917 said:
The definition which you gave, which you call "the English language usage", would count this post as violence - because I'm using physical force on my keyboard to write it.
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If you are doing so without your own consent, possibly.

But since it is your keyboard (that you have stolen from the public) you can use it in any manner you like short of violating others' consent if they are involved in this form of use.

Like "private property"? I'm not the one choosing that belief system and violently imposing it on others.
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Their very existence is violent, but you hurling a brick through their workplace, a place that a person should feel physically secure in, is benign.

Benevolent, in fact!

What "other fascists"? Delphic Oracle with the praxis of volunteering to the state to help enforce capitalist private property rights? Note there especially the appeal to local capitalists to justify said actions - as if there's only something wrong with capitalist private property when it's done by "teh fereigners". Wouldn't exactly call it fascist because it doesn't seem to directly use violence to enforce their belief system of "private property", but it's close.
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That I advocate one thing does not mean I oppose other things that I've not indicated which way I feel about.

Seems like you feel like you get to impose your beliefs on people in a lot of different ways.

This passes the fascist smell test to my satisfaction.
 
sadhatter said:
But what happens? Do our anecdotes cancel each other out? Does the one with the coolest story get believed? Do we go with word count?

If we are going to just throw the concept of evidence out the window id like to know what the new victory conditions are.
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We could try to go by larger working-class organizations and what they have to say on the subject.

Brazils Teachers Union Officially Declares Unconditional Support for Black Bloc
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The State Union of Education Professionals (Sepe) stated during assembly on Wednesday, unconditional support for the Black Blocs with respect to clashes with police occurred at the protest Monday. Was no vote on the matter during the meeting at the Municipal Club in Tijuca, Rio’s North Zone, which also defined the strike continuity of the category.

Many teachers say they have been protected by masked the excesses committed by the police and, in addition, they would have done first aid to people injured during the confusion around the Town Hall.

“Manifestations of education professionals continue to be organized by Sepe, but the Black Blocs are always welcome. Sepe What can not be responsible for prior acts, but the protests of the teachers were not causing conflicts but the Black Blocs the police, “said the general coordinator Alex Sepe Trentino.

The report said that the DIA admiration of teachers by masked youths is evident in this fourth edition. In groups of teachers and other servers formed on Facebook, were posted since the beginning of the month phrases like “Black Blocs, admire you,” “Congratulations to the Warriors Black Blocs”, “Black Bloc is my friend. Moved with him, touched me. “ A woman who identified herself as the teacher classified as “young fearless.” Another, more direct, called them “cute”.
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Anyone can of course also contact their local anarchist/autonomous/anti-fascist group and see for themselves - a bit of empiricism.
 
caveman1917 said:
We could try to go by larger working-class organizations and what they have to say on the subject.

Brazils Teachers Union Officially Declares Unconditional Support for Black Bloc


Anyone can of course also contact their local anarchist/autonomous/anti-fascist group and see for themselves - a bit of empiricism.
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Awww, Cute!

Black bloc, the Cancer of the Occupy Movement:

http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_cancer_of_occupy_20120206

I suspect that a person that does not own the means to produce will shortly produce a post referring to them as "liberals."
 
caveman1917 said:
We could try to go by larger working-class organizations and what they have to say on the subject.

Brazils Teachers Union Officially Declares Unconditional Support for Black Bloc


Anyone can of course also contact their local anarchist/autonomous/anti-fascist group and see for themselves - a bit of empiricism.
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The most troubling part of that link is the statement about no vote being taken on the matter.

So a unilateral imposition of endorsement by some members of an organization as to that organization's stance on an issue.

How 'anarchist' of them.
 
Delphic Oracle said:
Their very existence is violent
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Whose very existence is violent?

but you hurling a brick through their workplace, a place that a person should feel physically secure in, is benign.
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Oh it's their workplace? I didn't know the Bank of America or Starbucks were worker cooperatives. Do you have some evidence for this?

This passes the fascist smell test to my satisfaction.
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Not respecting capitalist private property rights is fascist? lol

If there's anyone not passing the "fascist smell test" it would be you. With your distinctions about the "local" capitalists as opposed to the "non-local" ones, your blatant militarism, your praxis of collaboration with the state to aid its violent defense of the "private property" of the capitalist class, your corporatist talk about "the local community" as if one organic whole. IIRC you even said you had a praxis of physical intervention in defense of and collaboration with the capitalist class, that's coming very close to core fascist praxis - their gangs who defend the capitalist class and its property in class conflict.

Liberals with fascist inspirations whining about how anarchists are the real fascists...:rolleyes:
 
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Macgyver1968 said:
Whoosh!!! (that was the sound of that going over my head). How about a simple explanation?
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Something is a mean of production if it is used in the production of economic value. Such as a machine in a factory. I do not own any means of production, so dubalb's statement was basically random noise.
 
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caveman1917 said:
Of course Chris Hedges is a liberal :rolleyes:

More accurate would be "liberals, the cancer of the Occupy Movement".
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