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logger said:
You're clueless about politics. Who gives s damn about reaching out to the fools who voted against him. They have zero power, and they will never vote for Trump. They need to be defeated not courted or compromised with.
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You're so adorable when you're in defense mode.
 
quadraginta said:
We're talking about the Presidency.

Every voter in the country is a constituent.

Regardless of their party affiliation.

That is everyone.
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But meaningless. A president that gets 80% of the vote and has there policies enacted is just as democratically legitimate as one who does the same with 50.1%. if the latter's strategy is to only serve that 50.1%, it makes no difference. That is democracy.
 
Reheat said:
While I don't agree with Trump using social media to counter this kind of crap, I do understand why he does it. The mass media certainly won't call it for what it is...
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It's easy to understand why he does it: He is a vindictive narcissist with a ridiculously bloated but extremely fragile ego, with no empathy whatsoever for anyone, and with the maturity of a 12-year-old. That will be the hallmark of his presidency, because that is who he really is.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
But he won, the election is over. He is supposed to be everyones President.
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Maybe this comes out of the fact that I think there is no "my president" but....

There is very few things a president is supposed to do. Submit a budget, give a state of the union, etc. The only referendum is the election. If they get the votes at that time, and argument about being everybodys president is meaningless.
 
logger said:
How do you figure that, it's exactly what he should be attacking him for. That's the only thing he should be attacking him for. No one disputes his heroism from the past, Lewis and the rest of the libs are still living on his past work.
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Why should he attack Lewis for his work, when the disagreement is over his claim that Trump's presidency is illegitimate?

Trump's response to criticism is strictly third-grade. He doesn't address arguments, he simply makes the most off-topic attack on the proponent. Streep criticizes Trump's behavior? She's an overrated actress. Lewis claims Trump's presidency is illegitimate? His district is a ghetto. And so on.

I'm not defending what Lewis said. I think it's dangerous and careless.[1] But Trump doesn't even think to address the issue. He's at home with childish ad hominems instead.

[1] Of course, that doesn't mean it's false, but I don't have a strong opinion over whether the oddities of this election delegitimizes the result.
 
BobTheCoward said:
But meaningless. A president that gets 80% of the vote and has there policies enacted is just as democratically legitimate as one who does the same with 50.1%. if the latter's strategy is to only serve that 50.1%, it makes no difference. That is democracy.
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Well actually, yes, it does make a difference.

That you are unable to recognize that speaks volumes.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
This post summarizes the elitism shown by many on the left - voting for Trump, by itself, marks you as a lesser person, and one they feel in a perfect world they would not even want to vote, allowing the "better" side to rule.

I do not get the support or even enthusiasm for Trump. But the way it's being caricatured and dismissed is not the way to go. IMHO, of course.
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Just like Mexicans sending criminals and rapists and not sending their best huh. But come on, I'm Just arguing Trump style. After all It worked for Trump.
 
logger said:
You're clueless about politics. Who gives s damn about reaching out to the fools who voted against him. They have zero power, and they will never vote for Trump. They need to be defeated not courted or compromised with.
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NoahFence said:
You're so adorable when you're in defense mode.
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People who voted against Trump are fools who have no power and therefore can be dealt with as defeated fools who nobody needs to give a damn about- but remember, everyone, it's the "libs" who are the dividers in America. :rolleyes:

We are in for an interesting next few years, that's for sure.
 
Congressman John Lewis said in an interview that he would have difficulty working with president Trump because he views his presidency as "illegitimate." He bases that opinion on the fact a foreign government tried to assist Trump's campaign in an underhanded way. Is saying that treasonous? U.S. intelligence agencies have stated that the evidence they have found supports the idea that Russia did try and assist the Trump campaign. Is that treasonous too?

When Donald Trump accused Obama of being an illegitimate president because he, Obama, was born outside the U.S., was that treasonous? Trump was basing that accusation on a lot less credible evidence than Lewis is. Then, even when Obama produced a birth certificate, Trump refused to retract his accusations. In fact Trump did not publicly acknowledge that Obama was a legitimate U.S. citizen until September 2016.

Is John Lewis indulging in a bit of payback? I would say so and to see Trump react so angrily must be very sweet. Looks like a case of, "People in glass houses..."

Personally, I think the idea that Trump's presidency is tainted by the Russian issue is pretty much an established fact. I'm sorry to say that but I think that is undeniably true. But I also think at some point we -- meaning the American public -- need to move on. We're stuck with Trump and nothing is going to change that.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I'm not on the left. Trump supporters are qualitatively lesser people.
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I'm not sure what "qualitatively lesser" means
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WilliamSeger said:
It's easy to understand why he does it: He is a vindictive narcissist with a ridiculously bloated but extremely fragile ego, with no empathy whatsoever for anyone, and with the maturity of a 12-year-old. That will be the hallmark of his presidency, because that is who he really is.
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Having spent the past thirty-five years listening to and seeing Donald Trump on local media here in New York, I wholeheartedly agree with the above. That's why my first reaction was, "Trump has zero chance of getting nominated much less elected. Once most people get to know Trump they can't stand him. He doesn't wear well." Given Trump's plummeting approval rates I stand by my earlier statement with the proviso...it's taking a lot longer than I thought it would. ;)
 
sunmaster14 said:
I'm not sure what "qualitatively lesser" means
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I said qualitative because a lot of people use quantitative incorrectly on the forum. A judgement on the value of people is qualitative.
 
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