Brilliant Light Power Going To Market - Free Energy Generator

[Horatius]

Then you patent all single part of the machine, none of which has a claim of free energy. Since they break law of physic they should be novel enough in a way or another.

So you have not patented the whole but since you hold every single part... You still have the patent which counts.

Ah, but most of the parts we see them using are, by themselves, not inventive. See the application for the TPV system I posted earlier. The only real difference between that device and BLP's current device is the source of energy.

 

[MikeG]

Then you patent all single part of the machine, none of which has a claim of free energy. Since they break law of physic they should be novel enough in a way or another.

So you have not patented the whole but since you hold every single part... You still have the patent which counts.

You'll enjoy paying your patents lawyer to do this for you! The searches alone will cost a fortune.

I wonder how many novel parts there are in anything these days.

 

[abaddon]

Pretty easy to do since we have patent treaties that grant reciprocity.

Are you proposing that if one gets a patent in one jurisdiction, one automatically or easily gets it in the next?

You would be wrong. Been there and done that. It is a nightmare of epic proportions.

 

[MikeG]

A working model presented to the office likely would work, but I agree that such presentations are rare. The various patent offices just don't have the in-house resources needed for long-term testing of industrial models. While being possible, it's not the way I was thinking of.

Seriously, they don't, in my experience, offer anything like this facility. They record a paper application. If you turn up with a working model, they'll tell you to go away and get a patent application drafted by a specialist.

 

[aleCcowaN]

To be fair to michaelsuede, my reply was to a post by Aepervius.

Which means he is increasingly finding troubles to post Nedflanderian diddle-dee-doos that make him look like having a sound voice here.

He's now more like "invest your money in BS Light Power, don't eat dairy products and Obama is a foreigner" all for similar reasons.

 

[Horatius]

Are you proposing that if one gets a patent in one jurisdiction, one automatically or easily gets it in the next?

You would be wrong. Been there and done that. It is a nightmare of epic proportions.

Hey, don't go ruining my fun with your spoilers!

Seriously, they don't, in my experience, offer anything like this facility. They record a paper application. If you turn up with a working model, they'll tell you to go away and get a patent application drafted by a specialist.

Well, yeah, if you do that as the first step! We're talking after you've filed the application, and the patent office has denied it for lack of utility (that is, it doesn't work).

I've had a few inventors actually bring in or send their devices to my office in such cases. But those were for rather small-ish items, in which the apparent utility was easy to see when you had the item in your hands.

It's rare, but it does happen.

 

[jaydeehess]

It's not that cheap. The initial prototype build-out will cost about 25 grand to do. It only becomes cheap once mass production induces economy of scale.

Econ101. Pretty sure everyone was taking that into account, or more to the point going with the numbers Mills throws out himself as to the cost per unit,,, retail.

The systems will be installed and maintained by third party distributors, much like the solar industry works today. I'm sure those guys don't work for free either.

I've seen you post this a few times. At my cottage I have two solar panels I purchased, installed and maintain myself, no third party involved.
The "solar industry" you speak of I assume, is the solar power to grid portion of large scale grid systems. You said that there would be no need of a power grid, nor any need to be on-the-grid.

Believe me, BrLP isn't going to be giving these things away for free. They will most likely be the world's first trillion dollar company.

No said "free" except you.

In the long run we will see energy prices and unit costs drop down to next to nothing, where units are available for full purchase and have the same size and cost as a small AC unit does today.

Then why the intermediary term of only leases? It makes no sense.

 

[Dr.Sid]

Go read this post and then come back here and say all that again.

Which makes it clear. He's not gullible. He's a troll. Don't feed trolls ..

 

[aleCcowaN]

In the long run we will see energy prices and unit costs drop down to next to nothing, where units are available for full purchase and have the same size and cost as a small AC unit does today.

Then why the intermediary term of only leases? It makes no sense.

All of that wasn't meant to be put together.

What do you expect if you're going to reason?

 

[Myriad]

It's not that cheap. The initial prototype build-out will cost about 25 grand to do. It only becomes cheap once mass production induces economy of scale.

Initially you will only be able to lease the units, and they will be tied via the internet to BrLPs offices, where they can monitor the system status and power production.

The systems will be installed and maintained by third party distributors, much like the solar industry works today. I'm sure those guys don't work for free either.

Believe me, BrLP isn't going to be giving these things away for free. They will most likely be the world's first trillion dollar company.

In the long run we will see energy prices and unit costs drop down to next to nothing, where units are available for full purchase and have the same size and cost as a small AC unit does today.

This is not going to happen, given that if the reaction works as claimed, it releases into the atmosphere (41:35 in the linked video) a waste product that essentially represents a previously unknown state of matter with properties unknown to the material, biomedical, and environmental sciences, which by BLP's own claims cannot be contained (1:22:10 in the linked video), but which can accumulate in certain materials (1:20:50 in the linked video) including carbon (1:20:00 in the linked video).

They're going to need to do some work (a few decades' worth, it appears; they should have started in the 1990s!) to establish safe exposure limits, health and environmental impacts. Or to prove the lack of any hazard with thorough and well-controlled studies.

As of late 2016, they had one "new hire" investigating the properties of the hydrino gas waste product (1:20:29 in the linked video). I'm sure the EPA will find that very reassuring.

Of course, if the whole thing is actually a scam and there's no such thing as hydrino gas, they won't have that concern.

 

[jaydeehess]

Ah, but most of the parts we see them using are, by themselves, not inventive. See the application for the TPV system I posted earlier. The only real difference between that device and BLP's current device is the source of energy.

You'll enjoy paying your patents lawyer to do this for you! The searches alone will cost a fortune.

I wonder how many novel parts there are in anything these days.

Don't you only need a patent for the lamp itself?
In that case you ignore the supposed hydrino talk altogether and patent it as a novel, super bright, silver/hydrogen powered, UV lamp.
Then you can put the parts together, including solar cells, and patent the electrical power generator.

By the by, I assume that this BLP electricity generator would require a DC to AC converter in order to power the usual household appliances?

 

[jaydeehess]

All of that wasn't meant to be put together.

What do you expect if you're going to reason?

I thought I was on the International Skeptics Forum though!

 

[Horatius]

Don't you only need a patent for the lamp itself?
In that case you ignore the supposed hydrino talk altogether and patent it as a novel, super bright, silver/hydrogen powered, UV lamp.
Then you can put the parts together, including solar cells, and patent the electrical power generator.

And if the examiner didn't notice the utter lack of any explanation of where the energy ultimately comes from, that might work to get the patent issued. But the patent itself would likely be invalid, and be likely to be thrown out if it ever ended up in court.

Which, if the device works, it absolutely would.

Think about it: a revolutionary new power source, that will upend every tradition energy industry in the world, protected only by a patent that is invalid? There would be rival companies chomping at the bit for a chance to have the patent declared invalid, so they can get their slice of the new energy pie. Take look at what happened to Viagra in Canada, for an example.

By the by, I assume that this BLP electricity generator would require a DC to AC converter in order to power the usual household appliances?

Yes, it would have the same issues as any other photovoltaic power systems.

 

[Myriad]

Peel away the (literal) layers of cooling jacket, vacuum (or pressure, depending on version) vessel, concentrator solar dome, blackbody radiator, electromagnetic pumps making molten silver electrode-streams… and it comes down to the same thing most energy scams come down to. A secret "catalyst" that releases energy from something not known to contain thermodynamically usable energy. (1:18:48 in the video linked in my previous post).

 

[Aepervius]

All of that wasn't meant to be put together.

What do you expect if you're going to reason?

It is fun to have what-if scenario, outside of the humor section .

 

[Prometheus]

Has Mills, or anyone else ever explained why the company changed it's name from Black Light Power to Brilliant Light Power?

 

[halleyscomet]

Has Mills, or anyone else ever explained why the company changed it's name from Black Light Power to Brilliant Light Power?

I can think of two reasons why they'd do that. First, to hide from investors. Making the company slightly harder to find might be enough to evade the morons who invest in scams like that. The other, might've been hiring a decent marketing rep. "Black Light Power" sounds like they provide A/V equipment for Raves.

 

[halleyscomet]

Would you read this book?

"The Hydrino Incident"

It was a new source of energy, virtually limitless, safe, clean. The only byproduct? Hydrinos. Slightly altered hydrogen atoms. Just a few extra electrons. Harmless, reactionless, never documented in nature before. No need to research it. No need to test it. Everything will be just fine.

Richard Trident was an independent researcher working from a small grant to test the effects of Hydrino gas on living organisms. After decades of NewSun Energy advertising, he was expecting a few minor effects, if any. He was wrong, and what he found put life itself in the balance, pitting him against a corporation willing to kill to cover up the truth, and a public indifferent to “alarmist environmentalists.”

 

[abaddon]

Has Mills, or anyone else ever explained why the company changed it's name from Black Light Power to Brilliant Light Power?

It is the MO. Change your name and hide. It has been going on for decades.

 

[Horatius]

Would you read this book?

"The Hydrino Incident"

If it was 99 cents through Amazon Kindle, I'd give it a whirl.

It is the MO. Change your name and hide. It has been going on for decades.

Yep. They even went through a round of patent applications that didn't even mention the word "hydrino" a couple of cycles ago.