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theprestige said:
China aren't idiots. I'm sure they'll figure out how to navigate the tricky waters of intercultural diplomacy and commerce just fine.
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Not understanding that the Chinese may react differently than western nations to the same situation is a failure to navigate those waters.
 
Spindrift said:
Not understanding that the Chinese may react differently than western nations to the same situation is a failure to navigate those waters.
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But the whole point is that it is entirely their responsibility to navigate this, the US can do what ever trump wants.
 
Meadmaker said:
Make all the excuses you want.

You voted for a childish narcissist. Maybe you did so because you thought the alternative was worse. I suppose that could be forgiven. However, you voted for a childish narcissist.


A tweet like that is just embarrassing.
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Consider me well embarrassed.

But consider also that after eight years of Bush, and eight years of Obama, maybe I'm no longer convinced that it matters if the president is embarrassing.
 
ponderingturtle said:
But the whole point is that it is entirely their responsibility to navigate this, the US can do what ever trump wants.
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The whole point is that it's true of every nation. Putin can do whatever he wants. It's up to the rest of the world to navigate that. Trudeau can do whatever he wants. It's up to the rest of the world to navigate that. China can do whatever it wants. Etc.
 
theprestige said:
The whole point is that it's true of every nation. Putin can do whatever he wants. It's up to the rest of the world to navigate that. Trudeau can do whatever he wants. It's up to the rest of the world to navigate that. China can do whatever it wants. Etc.
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They can do whatever they want but they have to weigh the response as to whether or not it's worth doing whatever they want. Trump doesn't seem to consider any possible responses, like the childish egotist that he is.
 
We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses because he's a childish egotist. We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses.

But these are just tweets. I think we will need to see what his actual policy actions are, before we can judge whether he considers possible responses. For example, if he draws a Red Line in Syria, will he consider the possible responses that might require him to actually enforce it?
 
theprestige said:
We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses because he's a childish egotist. We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses.

But these are just tweets. I think we will need to see what his actual policy actions are, before we can judge whether he considers possible responses. For example, if he draws a Red Line in Syria, will he consider the possible responses that might require him to actually enforce it?
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Donald and his supporters apparently don't get it. There are no 'just' anythings when one has been elected President of the United States and that includes while being president-elect. People take what the person in those positions says/tweets/emails very seriously. It's not a game for someone to play just to see what happensh which is what Trump apparently must think if he thinks they're 'just tweets'.
 
theprestige said:
We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses because he's a childish egotist. We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses.

But these are just tweets. I think we will need to see what his actual policy actions are, before we can judge whether he considers possible responses. For example, if he draws a Red Line in Syria, will he consider the possible responses that might require him to actually enforce it?
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And look at all the storm over a few poorly chosen words shortly after an embassy was attacked by terrorists. I look forward to a few congressional investigations into twitter statements.
 
theprestige said:
But these are just tweets. I think we will need to see what his actual policy actions are, before we can judge whether he considers possible responses. For example, if he draws a Red Line in Syria, will he consider the possible responses that might require him to actually enforce it?
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That's not a great example. He'll just rely on Russia and Iran to "pacify" the Syrian people, the ones who aren't dead yet. He couldn't care less about those people. Will he follow through on ultimatums? I doubt it, and if he does, it will turn out worse than if he hadn't.
 
ponderingturtle said:
And look at all the storm over a few poorly chosen words shortly after an embassy was attacked by terrorists. I look forward to a few congressional investigations into twitter statements.
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Someone may indeed take the tweety away. I don't know if past tweets can be used against him.

I spent an inordinate amount of time yesterday researching Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Self-proclaimed narcissist and YouTube guru Sam Vaknin said old age is the one thing that can occasionally pull a narcissist out of his fantasy world.
 
Minoosh said:
Someone may indeed take the tweety away. I don't know if past tweets can be used against him.

I spent an inordinate amount of time yesterday researching Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Self-proclaimed narcissist and YouTube guru Sam Vaknin said old age is the one thing that can occasionally pull a narcissist out of his fantasy world.
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Old age may help some, but winning a presidential election sure seems likely to reinforce any feelings of superiority, don't you think?
 
theprestige said:
Consider me well embarrassed.

But consider also that after eight years of Bush, and eight years of Obama, maybe I'm no longer convinced that it matters if the president is embarrassing.
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Fair enough.

As for what he does in office, I suppose we shall see. Whatever it is, we will get the President we deserve.
 
Meadmaker said:
Fair enough.

As for what he does in office, I suppose we shall see. Whatever it is, we will get the President we deserve.
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I don't see it's fair at all. Obama brought respect back to the POTUS position after GW Bush ruined it. The world respects Obama and his administration. Trump has already lost the respect of the world.

We're not getting a President we deserve. We're getting one that was forced upon us by Putin and Republicans gaming the system.
 
phiwum said:
Old age may help some, but winning a presidential election sure seems likely to reinforce any feelings of superiority, don't you think?
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It might still not be enough, and he's going to be getting a lot of negative attention as well. I wonder if he still plans on holding rallies with adoring fans once he's sworn in.

The office may actually be kind of isolating for him.
 
theprestige said:
We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses because he's a childish egotist. We know he's a childish egotist because he doesn't consider possible responses.
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Just wondering...

Have you just now, since his announcement of his candidacy, heard of Trump?

Dude's got 70 years of material to prove he's a childish egotist. Maybe you just need to catch up?
 
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