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Trump's Cabinet -- Serious Speculation

acbytesla said:
You think that distinction makes it better? Seriously? :rolleyes:
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Military people saying stuff like Mattis' quotes on combat do not bother me in the slightest. You want the high-priced help pumping up the people at the coalface with those sorts of phrases, and keeping high standards of discipline in the force both in and out of operational zones.

Looking at his operational record, I have no issues with Mattis - the troops were operationally focussed, displayed a high sense of professionalism and were disciplined for getting out of line.
 
Border Reiver said:
Military people saying stuff like Mattis' quotes on combat do not bother me in the slightest. You want the high-priced help pumping up the people at the coalface with those sorts of phrases, and keeping high standards of discipline in the force both in and out of operational zones.

Looking at his operational record, I have no issues with Mattis - the troops were operationally focussed, displayed a high sense of professionalism and were disciplined for getting out of line.
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And he made sure to drop charges of murdering civilians to keep it all nice an clean on the record. A perfect SOD for trumps plans to murder terrorists families.
 
Border Reiver said:
Military people saying stuff like Mattis' quotes on combat do not bother me in the slightest. You want the high-priced help pumping up the people at the coalface with those sorts of phrases, and keeping high standards of discipline in the force both in and out of operational zones.
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Again though, optics may also be important here. Even if his comments can rightly be attributed to him just rallying the troops, it still looks bad.

Think of what might happen should the U.S. decide to engage in some military action somewhere... They ask allies like Canada or Germany for help. If the secretary of defense is known to have said "shooting some people is fun", how will that play out in other countries?

Looking at his operational record, I have no issues with Mattis - the troops were operationally focussed, displayed a high sense of professionalism and were disciplined for getting out of line.
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Well, I did point out how he dropped the charges against some people accused of killing civilians.
 
Segnosaur said:
Again though, optics may also be important here. Even if his comments can rightly be attributed to him just rallying the troops, it still looks bad.

Think of what might happen should the U.S. decide to engage in some military action somewhere... They ask allies like Canada or Germany for help. If the secretary of defense is known to have said "shooting some people is fun", how will that play out in other countries?


Well, I did point out how he dropped the charges against some people accused of killing civilians.
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And his policy of indefinite imprisonment for people who wear the wrong kind of watch is troublesome. That is the effect of his position on gitmo.

As for the killing of civilians, think how bad it would look if they were convicted of it under him? Much better to pretend nothing bad happened.
 
Skimmed over this thread, but didn't notice any mention of this (sorry if I over looked it)...

Trump's National Security Advisor: Michael Flynn

However, there have been several problems with Flynn.

- He had his son working for him (although he his now fired/quit); The problem is, his son seems to be a rather vocal conspiracy believer, supporting InfoWars, and sending tweets out about things like pizzagate. And he was handling potentially secure information.

- Flynn himself may have issues with conflict of interest (receiving classified information at the same time he was paid to lobby for foreign companies.)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...onspiracy-loving-son-off-transition-team.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-advisor/
 
Argumemnon said:
...the what?
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That is combining two different things. One is how a lot of people got sent to Gitmo, Al Qaeda liked to give out a certain kind of watch so they would round up people who had it. And add in that he doesn't believe in releasing people from there but detaining them until the end of the war on terror.

And you get that he advocates a policy that will put people into prison for life for poor choices in watches.

But this is a post fact world so that doesn't matter.
 
Segnosaur said:
Skimmed over this thread, but didn't notice any mention of this (sorry if I over looked it)...

Trump's National Security Advisor: Michael Flynn

However, there have been several problems with Flynn.

- He had his son working for him (although he his now fired/quit); The problem is, his son seems to be a rather vocal conspiracy believer, supporting InfoWars, and sending tweets out about things like pizzagate. And he was handling potentially secure information.

- Flynn himself may have issues with conflict of interest (receiving classified information at the same time he was paid to lobby for foreign companies.)

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...onspiracy-loving-son-off-transition-team.html
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/18/politics/michael-flynn-donald-trump-national-security-advisor/
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National Security Advisor isn't a cabinet position.
 
Slings and Arrows said:
Well there it is, proof positive that Nancy Pelosi is a racist -- and probably a KKK member too.

"Disconcerting and disturbing" indeed, that the Democrats have chosen a white-supremacist as their minority leader. Very sad!
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This is very epitome of playing the race card, but taken to a POE-like extreme. I don't imagine you actually take this statement seriously. Right?

Though I do enjoy your escalation from Sad! to Very Sad!
 
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Stacko said:
Skimmed over this thread, but didn't notice any mention of this (sorry if I over looked it)...

Trump's National Security Advisor: Michael Flynn
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National Security Advisor isn't a cabinet position.
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True... but it is a rather senior position and some of the high-level non-cabinet positions have been mentioned briefly before.

I thought it was worth noting, but didn't think the subject deserved its own thread.
 
Trump aide Michael Flynn Jnr out after 'Pizzagate' tweets

One of Donald Trump's aides has lost his job after fanning a conspiracy theory that climaxed at the weekend in gunfire at a pizzeria.

Michael Flynn, 33, left the US president-elect's transition team on Tuesday following his tweets about the so-called Pizzagate fake news story.

Mr Flynn Snr, 57, has also tweeted out unsubstantiated conspiracy theories accusing Mrs Clinton and her aides of child-sex trafficking.
Among the retired lieutenant general's other tweets was an allegation that President Barack Obama was a "jihadi" who "laundered" money for terrorists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38231532
 
Argumemnon said:
Well, what do you know. The Trumpettes do have limits.
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Probably just a sacrificial anode so that the people in charge can continue to fly conspiracy theory garbage. They'll just have another patsy push the fake-news.
 
Argumemnon said:
Well, what do you know. The Trumpettes do have limits.
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Nope just the head of the snake.

Source familiar with Flynn Jr situation tells me he was asked to leave, with PEOTUS Trump giving direct order
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It shouldn't have to go to the top to get someone so unfit removed. Instead of realizing that he was coo coo for cocoa puffs, they requested security clearance for him.

However, government sources tell CNN that the Trump transition team had requested a security clearance for the younger Flynn.

When asked about the request for clearance on CNN's "The Lead," Vice President-elect Mike Pence wouldn't answer Jake Tapper's repeated questions about whether he knew the transition team sought security clearance for Flynn Jr. Instead, Pence repeated that the younger Flynn was merely helping his father with scheduling and administrative matters -- and no longer is doing so.
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