...how do you measure argumentative quality exactly? What is the standard of measure, and where do I rank, and how do I compare to you?
Lol, given your obvious gender, I doubt there is any point in engaging you. You take a purely emotional irrrational position. I can see you are just here to rant, and ignore certain facts and take the feminist side that a female did no wrong, and that a nearby male in her company is somehow responsible for all aspects of her welfare. Wake up to 2016, it is not 1850.
This isn't "garbage tip psychology." You pick and choose who you follow and who your friends are on facebook and twitter. If the people you follow and are friends with are "less intelligent" and "less objective" then that is your fault and your problem.
Lol sure. everyone adds as many people to look as popular as possible. They have 400 "friends" and never talk to 395 of them. None of these peoples IQ or moral compass are known. So spare me the BS please.
Your post was a list of cherry picked talking points that painted Tostee in a favourable light. Those talking points were irrelevant to what I said.
Wrong. They were inferences drawn fro the recording, the same way the jury would have done. the relevant facts were included. I did not inject irrelevancies and personal opinions such as "evil muthfooker" as you have done, which show a devout feminist outrage. Your posts themselves are exactly what you claim here - cherry picked in absence of full context.
Oh stop telling me what I do and I don't know. ... and I don't need to listen to three hours of a couple having a fight and then one of them falling to her horrific death to draw inferences about Tostee.
Actually you do. That is how you get full context. That is what the jury did. That is what you refuse to do by the look of it.
- I'm going to listen to the audio so that no-one else has too.
- you don't need to listen to the entire audio to have an opinion on this case.
- I'm fifteen minutes in. I'm bored already.
- And so far the audio hasn't added any nuance or context at all. Where is this nuance and context you promised?
Lol hilarious. What a detective.
Lets not pretend your opinions of "this female" have not clouded your view of this case.
Ive not pretended anything. Little Missy from Lower Hutt's actions have influenced my view, not clouded them. Same as tostees actions have. that is logical
If Tostee had called the police instead of putting on the balcony, do you think she would be alive? If Tostee had put her out the front door, do you think Wright would still be alive? Was dying the only possible outcome of the night? Was there nothing that Tostee could have done that night to ensure a different outcome?
If...if...if...shoulda...coulda... Well.
Someone should have adopted a more respectful attitude toward her date
Someone should have learned to moderate her intake of alcohol/drugs
Someone should have sought treatment for her mental issues (the self harming, low self esteem, the wild erratic behaviour, etc)
Someone should have not lowered herself to hawking it around on Tinder
Someone should have not gone to strange men's apartments within 8 mins of meeting.
Someone should have just exercised a little more wisdom and restraint commensurate with what a 26 yo should have
She was a timebomb that would have gone off somewhere else. We dont know anything about her history but it is unlikely to be "calm".
And thanks for the audio link. Just the absolute best way to spend a Tuesday afternoon: listening to Wright's last three hours of life. How absolutely *********** pleasant.
??? It was asked for. Q. How does your emotional comment provide relevance? A: It doesnt.
No additional context added that you couldn't grasp from a transcript. No additional nuance. You can hardly hear what they are saying. I'll update again after an hour.
Its called a volume control... lol
...don't anyone else listen to that tape.
Tostee is *********** evil.
Hilarious! It is though you are our nanny!
Listening to the tape hasn't softened my opinion. Its made it much much worse. I'm not going to listen to anymore. And I'm going to go rinse my brain with bleach. RIP Warriena Wright.
Ahh that ol' gender specific perspective is so enrichening.
...so you were wrong. I did listen to the recording.
Lol you hadnt, I told you you hadn't, so you then listen to it, and tell me I was wrong? Garbage tip psychology again. Hilarious. And you ask me about quality of argument. SMH!!!
I employed logic and objectivity. .....
Lol. Nope.
But from the audio Tostee's behaviour was wildly disproportionate.
And yet the exact opposite was deduced by the court. I agree with the court 100%.
Its a shame the prosecution didn't get a guilty verdict. But now I've listened to the tape in its entirety, and taken in the full context of the tape and all the nuance, I no longer believe the prosecution were wrong to go after murder. They just needed to present a better case than they did. The tape is a heck of a lot worse than the transcript. And that five minutes of silence from Wright says it all.
Lol, it wasnt even 5 mins, it was less than 2 mins, which just shows how with even small details you cannot get it right. You effectively lopped any credibility you had with your emotional comments and unfactual observations.
Did he physically have anything to do with her falling off the balconyYes or no
Hey dont bother asking, some people will NEVER get it, as we see.
Christ, this was covered on the first page of this thread. He did not have to throw her off the balcony. Stop these ridiculous posts.
Lol he didnt throw her off the balcony!! It really shows how little attention is still being paid after 25 pages of discussion.
Only one sides actions are relevant?
Excellent I'll leave you to it.
The dude was found not guilty by a jury who had access to a lot more info than you ever will.
He is living here if you want me to point at him and yell murderer on your behalf
Exactly . Thank you for bringing clarity, sense, and objectivity to the discussion.
