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Ambrosia said:
The single biggest problem with the Electoral College is that they, and they alone, decide on the POTUS.
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I don't regard this as a problem at all. Frankly, if the founding fathers' druthers still been intact, the electors would say hell no to a Trump presidency, and the world would be a better place. Because, as it happens, the voters (not a plurality, but the right voters) ********** up. They chose a remarkably bad candidate, a moron, a child.

Damned shame, that.
 
Trump could make his job a profit-generator:
“It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it,” Donald Trump said back in 2000 when he was contemplating a bid that he never followed through on. And while he didn’t actually turn a profit on his 2016 run, it’s looking more and more likely that being president is going to be very lucrative for Trump. By the time it’s over, he may even be worth as much as he has always claimed to be.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...the-trump-kleptocracy/?utm_term=.92e696ab1994
 
Argumemnon said:
The founding fathers didn't seem to think that was a problem. The way I understand it, it became a popular vote later on.
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They are there to make sure the people don't elect someone absolutely unsuitable for office. At least that's the reasoning that I have read in several places.

Though in todays elections candidates first have to be nominated by the party and the US is so partisan and the 2 party system is so entrenched that there is a snowflakes chance in hell of a n other candidate that isn't nominated by the republicans or democrats of getting elected.

Neither major party is going to nominate a candidate that is so terrible that the EC might consider voting for the other one instead, so that aspect of the EC is now redundant.

So why are they there?
 
phiwum said:
I don't regard this as a problem at all. Frankly, if the founding fathers' druthers still been intact, the electors would say hell no to a Trump presidency, and the world would be a better place.
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If they do rubber stamp Trumps election, what the hell would it take for them to vote in the other candidate?
 
Interesting article about Steve Bannon.

Hollywood Reporter said:
"The media bubble is the ultimate symbol of what's wrong with this country," he continues. "It's just a circle of people talking to themselves who have no ******* idea what's going on. If The New York Times didn't exist, CNN and MSNBC would be a test pattern. The Huffington Post and everything else is predicated on The New York Times. It's a closed circle of information from which Hillary Clinton got all her information — and her confidence. That was our opening."
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And now the same closed-circuit morons come up with this "fake news" thing, which of course will backfire as well. The meme is already occupied. :cool:
 
Ambrosia said:
They [the electors] are there to make sure the people don't elect someone absolutely unsuitable for office. At least that's the reasoning that I have read in several places...
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I'm not sure what sources explain the Electoral College as being essentially a failsafe in case a presidential candidate who is "absolutely unsuitable for office" won the popular vote, but whoever it is they're wrong. That's not how the system works and the Electoral College has a website (which I've previously posted links to and have done again) [see below] with an FAQ section that provides answers to most questions people have about how the electoral process works.

Electors are chosen by the political parties participating in the presidential election. They are usually chosen at the summer convention when the nominee for president is being selected. The electors are bound to the party's candidate. My understanding is, electors must vote for the candidate to which their slate is aligned. If they were to have say, a last minute conscientious objection to that candidate I think the best they could do would be to possibly abstain; I don't think there is any process whereby electors can vote for a candidate whose name was not on the ballot or 'vote' for the opposition candidate.

Anyway, here's the quote from the Electoral College's website:
Who selects the Electors?

Choosing each state's Electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each state choose slates of potential Electors sometime before the general election. Second, on Election Day, the voters in each state select their state's Electors by casting their ballots for President.

The first part of the process is controlled by the political parties in each state and varies from state to state. Generally, the parties either nominate slates of potential Electors at their state party conventions or they chose them by a vote of the party's central committee. This happens in each state for each party by whatever rules the state party and (sometimes) the national party have for the process. This first part of the process results in each Presidential candidate having their own unique slate of potential Electors.

Political parties often choose Electors for the slate to recognize their service and dedication to that political party. They may be state elected officials, state party leaders, or people in the state who have a personal or political affiliation with their party's Presidential candidate. (For specific information about how slates of potential Electors are chosen, contact the political parties in each state.) Link to Electoral College website
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trustbutverify said:
Dumpster is saying that winning the election prevented him from winning the scam case. It's not true, of course, but that's what he's saying.
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Oh hell yeah.

Orange Toad said:
I'm now POTUS - I don't have time to defend myself against this spurious crap, never mind how innocent I am of all charges. How much to make 'em walk? 25 mio? Pah - give me the cheque to sign. I'm a billionaire, this means nothing. Next question...
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I'd be prepared to bet that's how 99.999999% of his voters see it. Christ, they ignored him bribing a state A-G - what the hell are a few wannabe real estate people? All the people in the class-action are probably pinko Democrats anyway.

And where did that rape accusation go?

They got nuttin'.
 
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