Whoa. Nothing like a cause celeb in the struggle to become relevant. Museum directors, really? They are a thing now?
Maybe it's payback to keep the Indians from asking for their stuff back.
Merged Dakota Access Pipeline
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Whoa. Nothing like a cause celeb in the struggle to become relevant. Museum directors, really? They are a thing now?
Maybe it's payback to keep the Indians from asking for their stuff back.
I never thought of this.
Sexual assault on the pipeline
From article:
"It also endangers women and girls. That’s because, in this country as around the world, extractive industries create so-called “man camps,” places where male workers often work 12-hour days, are socially isolated for weeks or months at a time, and live in trailers in parks that extend for miles. As advocacy organizations like First Nations Women’s Alliance have noted, these man camps become centers for drugs, violence, and the sex trafficking of women and girls. They also become launching pads for serial sexual predators who endanger females for miles around.
In North Dakota, the man camps created during the Bakken oil boom drastically increased the levels of violent crime perpetrated against women and girls — and particularly native women and girls. Studies conducted during the peak of the oil boom — from 2010 to 2013 — showed that the number of reported domestic violence incidents and sexual assaults increased by hundreds, flooding and overwhelming service providers. Victim advocates from the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation — a native nation that became ground zero for the increase in violent crimes that accompanied the boom — have reported a doubling, and in some instances a tripling, in the number of calls that victim-service providers receive for domestic violence, sexual assault, and sex trafficking. As Bea Hanson, principal deputy director of the Department of Justice’s Office on Violence Against Women, stated in 2014: “Local and tribal victim-service providers have been overwhelmed with the increase in domestic violence and sexual assault victims coming forward and needing help.”"
Sexual assault on the pipeline
From article:
"It also endangers women and girls. That’s because, in this country as around the world, extractive industries create so-called “man camps,” places where male workers often work 12-hour days, are socially isolated for weeks or months at a time, and live in trailers in parks that extend for miles. As advocacy organizations like First Nations Women’s Alliance have noted, these man camps become centers for drugs, violence, and the sex trafficking of women and girls. They also become launching pads for serial sexual predators who endanger females for miles around.
In North Dakota, the man camps created during the Bakken oil boom drastically increased the levels of violent crime perpetrated against women and girls — and particularly native women and girls. Studies conducted during the peak of the oil boom — from 2010 to 2013 — showed that the number of reported domestic violence incidents and sexual assaults increased by hundreds, flooding and overwhelming service providers. Victim advocates from the Mandan, Hidatsa, and Arikara Nation — a native nation that became ground zero for the increase in violent crimes that accompanied the boom — have reported a doubling, and in some instances a tripling, in the number of calls that victim-service providers receive for domestic violence, sexual assault, and sex trafficking. As Bea Hanson, principal deputy director of the Department of Justice’s Office on Violence Against Women, stated in 2014: “Local and tribal victim-service providers have been overwhelmed with the increase in domestic violence and sexual assault victims coming forward and needing help.”"
That article needs some citations. Or not. It's an opinion piece, after all.
Primarily, you'd want to check and see if the increases were per capita or raw numbers because of the surge in population - "man camp" or not.
Dakota Access Pipeline battle also playing out in court
From article: While protests against the Dakota Access Pipeline garner public attention, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe is also trying to block the $3.8 billion project in the courtroom.
In court filings this summer the tribe asserted it was never adequately consulted about the oil pipeline planned by Energy Transfer Partners of Dallas, Texas."
From article: While protests against the Dakota Access Pipeline garner public attention, the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe is also trying to block the $3.8 billion project in the courtroom.
In court filings this summer the tribe asserted it was never adequately consulted about the oil pipeline planned by Energy Transfer Partners of Dallas, Texas."
NoahFence
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LOL Man.
How about we ********** these people hard enough already, and whatever they want, by default, is what they get?
NoahFence
Banned
'Murica.
Toothless cowards take over a bird sanctuary, get off scott free.
Native Americans try to protect their sacred lands and water, get arrested and bullied.
I'm tired of this ****.
Before they got off Scott free they got arrested and bullied a bit. Equality under the law.
I think Native Americans should have all the rights other citizens have. To grant them extra-special rights is a bit of an insult.
NoahFence
Banned
We'll have to disagree.
Murdering countless numbers of them in a genocide, then herding them into
Minimizing their suffering is the real insult.
They should be granted whatever the hell they want. 1/2 the proceeds from Federal taxes? Sure. Free wi-fi? Yep. Don't matter.
Vortigern99
Sorcerer Supreme
Please call the governor to voice your opinion: 701-328-2200.
The police are breaking the law by enforcing the illegal actions of a corporation and removing indigenous people from their treaty-protected lands.
The police are breaking the law by enforcing the illegal actions of a corporation and removing indigenous people from their treaty-protected lands.
NoahFence
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Is there a map of some sort that shows this is actually taking place on their reservation?
Maybe we don't disagree much.
I too do not think we should kill indians for being indians. I also do not think indians should be required to stay on reservations but should have free access to wherever they wish to live. This is what I meant by equality.
On the other hand, if any particular indian wishes to forego the opportunities and advantages living in the US offers, then that's their right as well. Just as I might enjoy a life of drunken oblivion, or not, as the case may be. I do not think that indians should be forced to integrate with the country at large, but may continue to gather in groups based on a shared cultural history. They should also have access to the same social safety nets we all do.
I do have a problem with the Biblical idea of "the sins of the fathers" extending down through subsequent generations.
quadraginta
Becoming Beth
I've been wondering for quite some time (ever since I first heard about the dispute) why this particular tidbit of fact hasn't seen more exposure;
The various mainstream reports seem to dwell a lot on the "sacred lands" thing, which is always good for a little bit of derision among the WASP community, as well as a near instant dismissal of the whole conflict.
When they manage to wedge in the water quality concerns they make sure to include the supporters statements that such concerns are unfounded.
I have yet to see anyone asking why there was sufficient cause for concern about the contamination of surrounding water supplies to have them change the original planned route from near Bismark to this one, where it suddenly becomes safe.
Somehow.
Presumably, a leak near a major population center would be less safe than a location where the supply can be more easily shifted or replaced. Part of the meaning of "safe" is the amount of risk, and this connects directly to the number of people at risk. When we are evaluating something on a broad risk level, the level of abstraction is the general population, not, for example a risk to individuals outside of the collective noun.
I can say a tiger is unsafe - that's why I want them in cages. But I've really only reduced the risk to the general public. They are still dangerous to whomever has to deal with them. On the other hand, if I the alternative was to allow a tiger in a preschool, I'd very much claim that putting it in a cage made it "safe." Even though it might be more correct to say, "There is no safe tiger at all."
In any case, the notion of "safe" is bound up with the idea of acceptable risk. It's a numbers game. A slight risk, which I might otherwise deem safe, becomes unacceptable if exposure to that risk is inflated enough.
Wayward son
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Probably because it is known that the source of their water supply is being moved by the end of this year and the pipeline (as well as the other pipelines that this one will be next to) will no longer be upstream of their water supply.
quadraginta
Becoming Beth
Yeah. Sure.
Then why was the north of Bismark route the original plan? Did they suddenly realize that people lived there after all that planning?
Or did the NIMBY pressure build up enough to encourage a change of heart?
After all, don't want to take chances on a bunch of white people maybe being affected if there's some redskins down the road that can take the heat.
quadraginta
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It was not the original plan, despite frequently being mentioned in the media. It was one of two plans considered. They assessed both and found that the Bismarck one had many flaws - including being longer, having more road, water, and wetland crossings etc. Race was not a factor. Common sense was.
That's probably it. At the meeting, someone mentioned there just hadn't been enough oppression of the redskins lately and what could be done about it. After the discussion about measles blankets fell through, they all decided to dump oil in the water supply.
Because, you know, the only real way to get all the indians to move into Bismark is to make the rez uninhabitable...
(This is a fun game. Can we add in some Nazis?)
