Curt Schilling vs. Elizabeth Warren

Spindrift said:
The pitcher and catcher need to have signs to know what they are doing. The fielders also like to know what's being thrown so they can react. Batters take signals from the coach in various strategic situations. Runners are coached by the base coaches. Depending on the situation, game score and inning different strategies are used. In bunt situation fielders have different strategies to handle it.

You're right, you never thought about if before.
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So they hit, catch and run when somebody else tells them to. Great. I stand corrected.
 
Bob001 said:
So they hit, catch and run when somebody else tells them to. Great. I stand corrected.
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Just like other sports. The running backs, linemen and receivers do what the quarterback tells them to do, who does what the coach tells him to do.
 
Spindrift said:
Just like other sports. The running backs, linemen and receivers do what the quarterback tells them to do, who does what the coach tells him to do.
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It's not even really that involved from the coaching aspect. The coaches don't, generally, decide what each pitch will be. The catcher and pitcher work out a strategy based on each hitter's scouting report. There's also field position per hitter, which is strategy based on data collection. You'll stand differently for pull hitters, or hitters that go straight up.

There's a ton of strategy in baseball, and people who say there isn't either know nothing about baseball, or have some weird angst against it because grown men aren't running into each other all of the time.
 
plague311 said:
It's not even really that involved from the coaching aspect. The coaches don't, generally, decide what each pitch will be. The catcher and pitcher work out a strategy based on each hitter's scouting report. There's also field position per hitter, which is strategy based on data collection. You'll stand differently for pull hitters, or hitters that go straight up.

There's a ton of strategy in baseball, and people who say there isn't either know nothing about baseball, or have some weird angst against it because grown men aren't running into each other all of the time.
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Depends on the team/pitcher/catcher. Some teams call every pitch from the dugout. You'll see the catcher looking over to see what to call.
 
Spindrift said:
Depends on the team/pitcher/catcher. Some teams call every pitch from the dugout. You'll see the catcher looking over to see what to call.
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I know most throw overs or pitchouts are called from the dugout. At the major league level, as long as your catcher isn't a rookie, usually the battery will pick the pitches. Then, of course, the pitcher can always shake it off.
 
plague311 said:
It's not even really that involved from the coaching aspect. The coaches don't, generally, decide what each pitch will be. The catcher and pitcher work out a strategy based on each hitter's scouting report. There's also field position per hitter, which is strategy based on data collection. You'll stand differently for pull hitters, or hitters that go straight up.

There's a ton of strategy in baseball, and people who say there isn't either know nothing about baseball, or have some weird angst against it because grown men aren't running into each other all of the time.
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Agree, but how much of that is being handled by the players? They are generally being given a decision tree. "If the situation is A do X. If it is B, do Y". Even before advance stats and scouting, guys did things mostly because "that is how you do it". I agree there is a ton of strategy and planning that goes into baseball, but very little happens between the lines. The players themselves tend to have one very good attribute and don't have to worry about much else.

Football, on the other, has a lot more moving pieces and requires the players to read the situation and improvise more.
 
Donal said:
Agree, but how much of that is being handled by the players? They are generally being given a decision tree. "If the situation is A do X. If it is B, do Y". Even before advance stats and scouting, guys did things mostly because "that is how you do it". I agree there is a ton of strategy and planning that goes into baseball, but very little happens between the lines. The players themselves tend to have one very good attribute and don't have to worry about much else.

Football, on the other, has a lot more moving pieces and requires the players to read the situation and improvise more.
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I don't follow football so to me it just looks like really big guys running into each other, just like soccer looks like a bunch of guys running around a field. I suppose baseball (which I love) looks something like that to people who don't follow it. Most sports look either incomprehensible, or dull, or both, to anyone who doesn't follow it closely.
 
I'm a hard core baseball fan and stats nerd. And I've had the chance to see behind the curtain. Its not nearly the chess game we all want to believe it is.
 
Donal said:
I'm a hard core baseball fan and stats nerd. And I've had the chance to see behind the curtain. Its not nearly the chess game we all want to believe it is.
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After reading Moneyball (I'm no baseball analyst but the book presented a compelling case), it seems that it's at least possible that all the attempts at making it a chess game are fruitless, like the statistics that show stealing bases and sacrifice flies result in fewer points instead of more.
 
Babbylonian said:
After reading Moneyball (I'm no baseball analyst but the book presented a compelling case), it seems that it's at least possible that all the attempts at making it a chess game are fruitless, like the statistics that show stealing bases and sacrifice flies result in fewer points instead of more.
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And that defensive specialists are much less important than defensive positioning. Which is why we now see exotic shifts so many times per game, as some analysts have been recommending for a long time.
 
dudalb said:
Basically,yeah.

His claims that the Dems are anti Israel are totally bogus to begin with,but then Schilling really turns on the stupid.
IMHO the Bay State GOP will learn from the Trump experience,and takes whatever steps necessary to see that Schilling never gets near the senatorial nomination.
BTW,what has Schilling done since h retired except make a fool of himself on a baseball commentator, and launch unsuccessful computer game companies?
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I suppose it's possible that the GOP could actually learn from its mistakes and try something different, but they haven't done much else but double down since they started sucking up to the bigot demographic half a century ago.

Not sure why this go-round should suddenly pull off the veil.
 
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dudalb said:
That is because demogogues like Trump have always been bad news for the Jews.
And the Anti Semitism Rampant in the alt.right movement has also gotten a lot of coverage in Jewish media, since Bannon, who is pretty much calling the shots in Trump's campaign,is a major force in the alt.right.
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But ...but ... but ... that was a sheriff's badge.

Yeah. That's it. Sheriff.

Huh, huh, huh.
 
quadraginta said:
I suppose it's possible that the GOP could actually learn from its mistakes and try something different, but they haven't done much else but double down since they started sucking up to the bigot demographic half a century ago.
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After the 2012 election:

"Wow, we lost. We should really sit back and take stock of why we lost and what we need to change. *looks at the data* hmmm... it seems we are losing important, growing demographics. We need to start changing X,Y, and Z"

*Flash forward to 2016*

"Yeah, all that stuff we learned after the 2012 election. ****. THAT. ****** Let's do the exact opposite!"
 
bonzombiekitty said:
After the 2012 election:

"Wow, we lost. We should really sit back and take stock of why we lost and what we need to change. *looks at the data* hmmm... it seems we are losing important, growing demographics. We need to start changing X,Y, and Z"

*Flash forward to 2016*

"Yeah, all that stuff we learned after the 2012 election. ****. THAT. ****** Let's do the exact opposite!"
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Yeah, you hit it on the head. Every glitch they had with Romney is multiplied with Trump. Taxes, foreign policy, etc. It's all extremely worse with Trump.
 
Donal said:
He's probably telling himself he's the next Scott Brown. Why are baseball players the dumbest athletes?
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Pro-sports ranked dumbest to smartest

4. Hockey players= dumbest
3. NFL players
2. NBA
1. Baseball= smartest
 
Caper said:
Pro-sports ranked dumbest to smartest

4. Hockey players= dumbest
3. NFL players
2. NBA
1. Baseball= smartest
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Limited to US pro sports, there is a good argument that you have 3,2 and 1 completely backwards.

To be in the NFL, it is virtually unavoidable to have to spend at least three, usually four or five years maintaining academic eligibility at an accredited college.

The NBA is more avoidable as one could go overseas. Those that are clear NBA prospects only play one year, which in practice means they need to maintain eligibility for one semester. Still, that means they passed the NCAA minimum requirements and lasted one semester.

An MLB player can avoid higher education completely.

Same with the NHL.
 
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