Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VII

The Don said:
Trump takes a swipe at Michelle Obama by taking a phrase completely out of context - what a shocker :rolleyes:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-37734628
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He tried this before, in Debate II, I think. It was completely debunked and yet he takes it on the road.

I actually watched that rally (Friday in Fletcher, NC) looking to see how he's playing the crowd. He didn't really go near his pledge nor his denial about the election results but did whine about unfair media for a moment then went into the zillions of dollars in ads she's running.

I had to re-run the speech to see if I missed anything because it was a very low-key speech and very under-enthused (for Trumpies) crowd.

I think I picked up on their momentary calm. They think that the two anomalous polls in the last couple of days are indications of a big swing. And that may also be why he's not harping on "rigged".... he thinks he's ahead. When the next few polls average him out to "still a loser" he may treat us to another round of It's Rigged I Tell Ya.

As to the crowds? I think they've all heard Trump's Greatest Hits. The crowd reaction was more of obligatory applause/cheering. The rabid enthusiasm isn't nearly as rabid. Or maybe I should say "isn't nearly as loud", as I think anyone still attending these things definitely qualifies as rabid.
 
dudalb said:
THat is grossly unfair to Emperor Norton..........
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Damn right. Joshua Norton was a dignified, popular and honest man with a wide knowledge and the ability to give a correct opinion on many subjects.
Utterly unlike Trump.
 
Stacko said:
The Price I've Paid for Opposing Donald

Holy ****! That is beyond the pale.
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Kinda typical of Trump and the Trumpettes.
Apparently Selma Hayek refused to go out with the Trumpet and he responded by spreading tabloid rumours about her. She's refused to speak "that man's" name since 2015 and has spoken out about why she believes the allegations of sexual harassment and assault against Trump are true.

"When I met that man, I had a boyfriend, and he tried to become his friend to get my home telephone number". She told the Trumper that she "wouldn't go out with him even if I didn't have a boyfriend". So Trump started a story (which appeared in the National Enquirer" claiming that he wouldn't date Hayak because she was too short for him. :rolleyes:
After the story came out the Trumpet called her again and told her how awful it was that someone would say that about her and that he didn't want people to think that. She believes that "He thought that I would try to go out with him so people wouldn’t think that’s why he wouldn’t go out with me"

Interestingly this meshes with his corrupt use of Trump Foundation money; in 2008 he used it's fund to buy a US$120,000 luxury trip that included a dinner with Hayek.
 
trustbutverify said:
More eager to see what he does with Dump's demolition at the Al Smith banquet last night. I just saw the entire replay. That was bloody.
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He's still got his apologists.
Congressman Brian Babin defended him saying:
"Sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's being nasty".
Babin, who describes himself as a "genteel Southerner" also accused Clinton of "saying some nasty things" and that he believes "she's done some nasty things".

:boggled:
 
catsmate said:
He's still got his apologists.
Congressman Brian Babin defended him saying:
"Sometimes a lady needs to be told when she's being nasty".
Babin, who describes himself as a "genteel Southerner" also accused Clinton of "saying some nasty things" and that he believes "she's done some nasty things".

:boggled:
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He has a point, Clinton possesses ovaries.
 
Donald Trump has claimed that Barack Obama and the US are loathed around the world, driving countries such as the Philippines into the arms of its adversaries.

“The world hates our president,” Trump said Friday at a rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. “The world hates us. You saw what happened with the Philippines after years and years and years; they’re now looking to Russia and China, because they don’t feel good about the weak America.”

Obama cancelled a meeting with Rodrigo Duterte last month after the Philippines’ controversial new president appeared to call him a “son of a whore”. On Thursday Duterte declared “America has lost” and said it was China, the Philippines and Russia against the world. But in Manila on Friday, Duterte said he would not sever ties and it was in his country’s best interests to remain with the US.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...mp-michelle-obama-philippines-duterte-clinton

Meanwhile, in the real world:

U.S. President Barack Obama’s ratings in key European and Asian countries remain robust. Overall, around half or more in 15 of 16 countries surveyed, including the United States, have confidence in him to do the right thing regarding world affairs. This includes more than 80% in Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, France and Australia. Trust in Obama has stayed strong throughout his two terms as U.S. president.

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In Europe, majorities in nine of 10 countries surveyed express confidence in Obama’s ability to handle international issues, including fully 93% in Sweden and 91% in the Netherlands. Only the Greeks have a negative opinion of the U.S. leader (58% little or no confidence).

While nearly eight-in-ten British citizens (79%) express confidence in Obama, the U.S. president likely did not help his standing by visiting the UK and urging the British to remain in the EU. That visit occurred during the fielding of our survey, and we found that whereas 83% of British had confidence in Obama prior to his appearance in Britain, after his public remarks just 69% shared this view – a drop of 14 percentage points.

Obama also enjoys high ratings from Canadians (83%) and Australians (84%). Elsewhere in Asia, the U.S. president is viewed positively by majorities in Japan (78%) and India (58%). Even in China, 52% have confidence in his abilities to handle international affairs.

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Less than a quarter of people across all 15 countries surveyed express confidence in Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee for U.S. president. In fact, overwhelming majorities in most of the countries surveyed have little or no confidence in his ability to handle international affairs. This includes 92% of Swedes, 89% of Germans, 88% of Dutch and 85% of both the French and British. This distaste is especially strong in Sweden, where 82% have no confidence at all in him.

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Most Australians (87%), Canadians (80%) and Japanese (82%) also lack confidence in Trump. In China, there is a split between those who have no confidence in Trump (40%) and those who do not offer an opinion (39%). And in India, 67% do not offer an opinion.
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http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/06/29/2-obamas-international-image-remains-strong-in-europe-and-asia/
 
Reuters has Trump down by only 4, even after everything! Seems the issues now are abortions and supreme court nominations...
 
Jimbo07 said:
Reuters has Trump down by only 4, even after everything! Seems the issues now are abortions and supreme court nominations...
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Reuters/Ipsos is generally credible but is a full internet poll.

Similarly, the IBD/TIPP poll is getting much ballyhoo, but this is another of those seven day rolling average polls, and I don't trust them. They got 2012 fairly accurate, but not as good as the best live-caller polls. Plus, with the anomalous seven-day-rolling poll at the LATimes/Dornslife, which is also trending towards Trump, we're either facing two polls that aren't accounting for a lot of Hillary voters (how many blacks and latinos use the internet?) or we're going to have a new model in polling if they're right, because they're scoring Trump+ in Rasmussen ranges - normally a place no pollster is comfortable being.
 
Fast Eddie B said:
Without comment:

NBC News is reporting 45% of Republicans say they might not accept the election results.
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Just saw this on Reuters:
Only half of Republicans would accept Clinton, the Democratic nominee, as their president. And if she wins, nearly 70 percent said it would be because of illegal voting or vote rigging, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Friday.... Conversely, seven out of 10 Democrats said they would accept a Trump victory and less than 50 percent would attribute it to illegal voting or vote rigging, the poll showed.
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The whole country is losing it, even many Dems. What an election cycle, OMG.
 
Jimbo07 said:
Reuters has Trump down by only 4, even after everything! Seems the issues now are abortions and supreme court nominations...
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I'm convinced the actual number is 6 to 7. What's great about this election is the number of polls. I continue to hear the lead is as high as a 11 and a low of 4 points. With usually about a 3 point margin of error. I'm more interested in the State numbers in about 8 States.
 
Hlafordlaes said:
Just saw this on Reuters:


The whole country is losing it, even many Dems. What an election cycle, OMG.
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I wouldn't attach too much insanity to the Dems in this instance. The two scenarios have differing degrees of probability, after all. Trump is trailing badly in the EC Vote polling, much worse than he's trailing in the popular vote.

With literally every aggregator giving Clinton a 85% or greater probability of winning and only right wing RealClearPolitics showing her with not yet >270 electoral votes, being surprised enough at the outcome to question the results is quite a bit more logical, even evidence-based.

Think of it as USA Basketball playing Portugal. Yeah, on any given day.... and there have been some colossal upsets in sports history, but still #1 in the world vs #50. I'm pretty sure you'd have well over half the USA fans asking if there was a fix. ('72 in Munich comes to mind and that was #1 v. #2.)
 
Foolmewunz said:
I wouldn't attach too much insanity to the Dems in this instance. The two scenarios have differing degrees of probability, after all. Trump is trailing badly in the EC Vote polling, much worse than he's trailing in the popular vote.

With literally every aggregator giving Clinton a 85% or greater probability of winning and only right wing RealClearPolitics showing her with not yet >270 electoral votes, being surprised enough at the outcome to question the results is quite a bit more logical, even evidence-based.

Think of it as USA Basketball playing Portugal. Yeah, on any given day.... and there have been some colossal upsets in sports history, but still #1 in the world vs #50. I'm pretty sure you'd have well over half the USA fans asking if there was a fix. ('72 in Munich comes to mind and that was #1 v. #2.)
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I think I'm still in a state of shock over Brexit, and fear anything is possible. And at least to a degree that seems more true these days, as responses to polls seem to include people who don't want to state their preferences openly. Just as there were closet Brexiters, I fear closet Trumpettes.

Think maybe I'll calm down and have some dip.
 
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