Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VII

Bob001 said:
Is Trump really the landlord? Typically a condo developer sells the units to the owners, who then form a condo association with a board of directors that hires a management company to maintain it...
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I've never lived in a condo but my impression was, in addition to serving as the building's management the Trump organization owns the building; individual tenants own apartments within it. My friend had previously lived in Battery Park City -- he had to move out after 9/11 when the building became uninhabitable -- and that's when he bought the Trump apartment. He said there was no comparison between the standards maintained or the level of service Trump supplies. Again, my biggest surprise was that Donald Trump was personally involved and came across as very personable and approachable.

This is one of Trump's successful businesses:
Trump International Realty is the premier luxury full-service brokerage headquartered in New York City. Leveraging its global brand recognition, real estate vision and tremendous resources, Trump International Realty delivers a level of distinctive services unparalleled in the industry... Link to Trump site
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newyorkguy said:
I've never lived in a condo but my impression was, in addition to serving as the building's management the Trump organization owns the building; individual tenants own apartments within it. My friend had previously lived in Battery Park City -- he had to move out after 9/11 when the building became uninhabitable -- and that's when he bought the Trump apartment. He said there was no comparison between the standards maintained or the level of service Trump supplies. Again, my biggest surprise was that Donald Trump was personally involved and came across as very personable and approachable.

This is one of Trump's successful businesses:
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It's probably both... not a terrible hardship or much time out of his month (not like he's wrenching on the plumbing himself); and the only/best way to cut himself a hefty management check. That one '90s return that got leaked showed an especially anemic amount of taxable personal income, he needs something beyond grifting off his foundation.

And who knows who he's networking with through the association and tenants. He's a sociable creature, might be an enjoyable part of his schedule.
 
phiwum said:
You would be a twisted, tortured shrivel, too, and maybe you’d lash out and try to take cruel revenge on the universe. For Trump this is his whole life.[/INDENT]

ETA: My dictionary doesn't seem to recognize "shrivel" as a noun.
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I read a similar article a while back. I doubt that it's entirely true. There will be warm moments somewhere in there, perhaps with someone who has never risked looking at him askance. It's quite possible that he wouldn't mistreat you as a matter of course. It's unlikely that anyone who showed any open disdain or contempt would find themselves in his orbit for very long.

I can't find any reference to 'shrivel' being a noun, but it seems appropriate in context.
 
Question for American voters: when you vote for President, do you vote for the Senate and Congress at the same time? On the same ballot?

And if so, how do you rate someone voting for the President of one party and Senate/Congress of a different party?

Common
50/50
Hardly ever

Thank you for answering.
 
cantonear1968 said:
Question for American voters: when you vote for President, do you vote for the Senate and Congress at the same time? On the same ballot?

And if so, how do you rate someone voting for the President of one party and Senate/Congress of a different party?

Common
50/50
Hardly ever

Thank you for answering.
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All Reps every 2 years. Senators - one third of them every two years. All on same ballot, plus lots of local elections/issues on the ballot as well.

I have always been willing to split between President and Congress. It always surprises me when I see people always voting for 1 party. Some ballots allow you to do this with one mark, others do not.
 
cantonear1968 said:
Question for American voters: when you vote for President, do you vote for the Senate and Congress at the same time?
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Yes. But the senate is staggard some, we only elect some of the senators every two years as they have 6 year terms.

On the same ballot?
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Generally yes, but sometimes there's enough things to vote on that you have to fill out two different ballots. That happened in several areas in FL in 2012. Hence when you see claims of "more ballots were cast in <insert county in FL> than registered voters, therefore Obama stole the election", that's what happened.

And if so, how do you rate someone voting for the President of one party and Senate/Congress of a different party?

Common
50/50
Hardly ever
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Somewhere between 50/50 and hardly ever. It's very common for voters to just select the entire slate of candidates from a party that conforms to the party of their selected candidate in the highest profile race. In a lot of places, there's literally a button you can push to select all the candidates of given party. A lot of people just do that. Personally, I tend to do that as for most of the lower profile races around me, there's literally not a choice. So I tend to hit the party button, which pre-selects most of the candidates I would have voted for (or didn't really have a choice to vote for), and then change the couple races here and there to balance things out.

That's why a lot of republicans are trying to distance themselves as much as they can from Trump. They are trying their hardest to convince Hillary voters to not just vote Dem across the board.
 
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bonzombiekitty said:
Yes. But the senate is staggard some, we only elect some of the senators every two years as they have 6 year terms.
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That's interesting. I didn't know that.


Generally yes, but sometimes there's enough things to vote on that you have to fill out two different ballots. That happened in several areas in FL in 2012. Hence when you see claims of "more ballots were cast in <insert county in FL> than registered voters, therefore Obama stole the election", that's what happened.
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Are you talking about plebiscites here? Such as legalizing marijuana?



Somewhere between 50/50 and hardly ever. It's very common for voters to just select the entire slate of candidates from a party that conforms to the party of their selected candidate in the highest profile race. In a lot of places, there's literally a button you can push to select all the candidates of given party. A lot of people just do that.

That's why a lot of republicans are trying to distance themselves as much as they can from Trump. They are trying their hardest to convince Hillary voters to not just vote Dem across the board.
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Thank you to you and Slyjoe.
 
cantonear1968 said:
Are you talking about plebiscites here? Such as legalizing marijuana?
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On my (mail in - Arizona) ballot there was a measure regarding legalizing marijuana on the back of it along with a measure regarding raising money for local schools with bonds.
 
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cantonear1968 said:
Are you talking about plebiscites here? Such as legalizing marijuana?
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I live in Philadelphia, PA. Our ballots will have two questions on it.

One will be whether or not to amend the state Constitution to raise the mandatory retirement age of judges from 70 to 75.

The other is a question for Philadelphia residents only, which is the standard question of whether the city should issue bonds to fund various municipal services. It's a standard question every election and it's a forgone conclusion that it will be voted "yes".

Some states, like CA, make it a lot easier to get various measures on the ballot. So they can have a lot of various questions on them that, yes, can include whether or not to legalize marijuana.

In some years, I have a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE list of offices I have to vote for. National offices, state offices, and a ton of local offices. Some of the latter allows you to choose several people.

You can see what I am voting on here

Looking at the possible candidates, we can go down the line....

President - Not voting for Trump, the third party candidates are all totally unimpressive and ineffectual, which leaves Clinton (democrat).

Vice president - that's linked to president.

US Senate - Pat Toomey (R) is the incumbent, McGinty is the Democrat candidate, and the libertarian candidate has no chance at all so he can be ignored. Honestly in this race I'm voting for McGinty solely due to Toomey's stupid bike messenger ads. I also want to minimize the control the republicans have in the federal gov't. I'm very angry at them for the shut down a few years ago and their stupid games regarding the SCOTUS nomination. **** them.

House of Representatives - I'm in the 1st congressional district, Brady is going to win regardless.

PA Attorney General - Honestly, I don't know. The previous AG was a democrat and she had to resign due to perjury and some other unethical stuff. I dunno enough about either candidate to say.

PA Auditor General - Who cares.

PA Treasurer - WHo cares

PA Senate - I don't have a choice, only a democrat running in my state senate district

PA House of Reps - I don't have a choice, only a democrat running in my state house district.
 
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cantonear1968 said:
Question for American voters: when you vote for President, do you vote for the Senate and Congress at the same time? On the same ballot?
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Others have addressed this so I'll skip it.

And if so, how do you rate someone voting for the President of one party and Senate/Congress of a different party?

Common
50/50
Hardly ever
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I'm probably about 50/50. I don't deliberately split my vote, but on a lot of matters I'm not convinced of either side's ideology and I am convinced that a competent, pragmatic official is better than an inept, ideologically-fixated official, and neither side has a lock on that. Admittedly, the Republicans have been more crazy than usual for the last several years.

But I would guess that most voters (>70%, and I have no data to back that up) usually vote a straight ticket for one party.
 
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cantonear1968 said:
Question for American voters: when you vote for President, do you vote for the Senate and Congress at the same time? On the same ballot?

And if so, how do you rate someone voting for the President of one party and Senate/Congress of a different party?

Common
50/50
Hardly ever

Thank you for answering.
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Also, a state ballot might have between two dozen and a hundred different decisions for a voter to make. City Council, elected judges, ballot measures, state officials, state legislators, and more. Some people just vote for president and congress and then decide they don't have the time or desire to go through the rest of the ballot. If those people decide to stay home because they hate the presidential candidates so much, then those running for congress may face lower voter totals, which in some cases hurt them. That's another reason why so many Republicans are saying I am not with Trump and voting for me is important.
 
slyjoe said:
All Reps every 2 years. Senators - one third of them every two years. All on same ballot, plus lots of local elections/issues on the ballot as well.

I have always been willing to split between President and Congress. It always surprises me when I see people always voting for 1 party. Some ballots allow you to do this with one mark, others do not.
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Ah. the famously long ballot papers.
 
bonzombiekitty said:
Some states, like CA, make it a lot easier to get various measures on the ballot. So they can have a lot of various questions on them that, yes, can include whether or not to legalize marijuana.
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My California ballot has a total of 17 state measures to vote on, plus 2 county measures. I'll save my rant about the California proposition system for another thread, but it's seriously messed up.

Other than that, my ballot has just 9 elected offices to vote on, and 4 of those are judges, so not too bad.
 
They often run more than one election a year with various measures appearing on the ballots. We had one August 2nd (or thereabouts). These are usually local measures and candidates and distinct from the national election (the "general").
 
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