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Merged Project Veritas strikes again / More evidence...

crzbrdude said:
Bill Clinton sex scandal? ********.
Hillary Clinton emails? ********.
Hillary Clinton deleted emails? All personal.
Rigging the election? ********, I don't like the journalist. There is a video. It's fake.

Is this forum for skeptics or non-skeptics-at-all?

You believe exactly what the big press tells you lol. It's so ridiculous to see. I really hope she wins. 10 years from now you'll see who you really elected. I'd love to see, it will be a scandal per week, but who cares? At least she's not Trump.
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Graduate of Trump U, I see....
 
You can't defend her without mentioning him. It's só ridiculous. You're blind from your beliefs.
 
logger said:
Yes because he isn't vastly more dishonest, he's a saint compared to her. Her entire political career is made up with lies upon lies.
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Donald has been caught in far more lies than Hillary and that is simply a fact.
 
crzbrdude said:
You believe exactly what the big press tells you lol. It's so ridiculous to see.
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No, I either know something because I've seen evidence or I say, "I don't know." I never choose to believe.

Accepting evidence put forward by the press makes a lot more sense than believing every unsupported conspiracy theory to come out of GOP supporting mouths.
 
Damn it, liberals! Just how much false evidence and how many videos produced by known liars is it going to take before you realize that Hillary Clinton is a murdering fraudster! At least Trump is only a raping fraudster!
 
Until the full, uncensored, video is released, I will dismiss as just another O'Keefe job.
 
Eddie Dane said:
I'm confused.

This guy may be scam artist, but what the hell could he have edited out that would have softened any of the things recorded?

Did they say 'just kidding' after each sentence?

Also this fit the pattern of "violence breaking out at Trum Ralleys" that almost always seem to involve agitators coming there to provoke a reaction.

I'm sure the guy is a douche and the video's style and manipulative editing don't inspire confidence. But he did get those people on camera admitting to running organisations indirectly financed by the DNC paying and directing agitators.

Do the people on this forum have a similar 'meh, who cares' reaction to the government agent provocateurs who made anti-war protests go violent during the Vietnam era? Would they react this disinterested if it was a pro Trump org provoking pro Hillary people ?
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This doesn't look good to me. I had a similar reaction, but you can do some creative editing, and you can do your own "bird dogging". I hope there's more investigating of this, either to verify the Project Veritas findings, or to refute findings and expose their methods.


One thing I noticed is that the "agitators" tape had less editing that the "voter fraud" tape that I saw. And of course, it would not surprise me at all to learn that interest groups placed their own people at Trump rallies to cause trouble. What did he say that they do? Wear a Planned Parenthood T-shirt to a Trump rally....get punched out. That's not dirty pool That makes the Trump supporters look bad, if they are that easy to goad into violence.

On the other hand, actual election fraud would be something that would upset me a great deal, but in the tape where they were trying to expose that, there weren't the lengthy, connected, conversations. There were lots of splices and cuts and sentences out of context.

I hope people look into it, but I'm skeptical.
 
I have not had time to watch but this is a bus scheme correct?

It has a huge problem. They are not on the rolls, correct? They can probably vote provisionally but not be able to get it certified. It definitely wouldnt be included in results that night. Am I missing something?
 
BobTheCoward said:
I have not had time to watch but this is a bus scheme correct?

It has a huge problem. They are not on the rolls, correct? They can probably vote provisionally but not be able to get it certified. It definitely wouldnt be included in results that night. Am I missing something?
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I didn't study things closely, but I'm very suspicious of that "bus scheme" stuff. I noticed lots of cuts. Lots of disconnected sentences. When they were talking about planting agitators at Trump rallies on the other tape, there were full conversations and dialogs. Not so much when talking about their alleged planning of voter fraud.

I noticed that you could describe a voter registration drive, or just bussing people down to a rally or campaign event, using the exact words that were on the videos, and make it look really really bad by some creative editing.

Is that what they did? There should be an investigation by the appropriate authorities. If they were really committing voter fraud of the sort that is alleged, uncovering the scheme would be trivial. Remember the thing that always undoes conspiracy theories is that too many people would have to follow the script. It makes the large scale conspiracies impossible to pull off.

Do you need a bus to carry your conspirators? Then there are too many conspirators, and your cover would be blown. On the other hand, it only takes a couple of people to create a fraudulent video through creative editing.

The possibility of organized voter fraud should be investigated. So should the possibility of manipulating the election by putting together false and misleading videos alleging organized voter fraud.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Bob Creamer "steps back" from DNC.
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Dem operative 'stepping back' after video suggests group incited violence at Trump rallies

"Robert Creamer -- husband of Illinois Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D) -- announced his resignation in a statement after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a video under his organization Project Veritas Action, which showed Creamer and other operatives purportedly discussing methods for inciting violence at rallies for the Republican nominee."

Read more:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/ (October 18, 2016)


Hey, don't "step back" too far Bob, you'll trip over Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
 
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Eddie Dane said:
I'm confused.

This guy may be scam artist, but what the hell could he have edited out that would have softened any of the things recorded?
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Try cobbling together a half-dozen conversations recorded at different times regarding subjects that have nothing to do with what O'Keefe is trying to pass them off as. That would be O'Keefe's MO. To illustrate:

Eddie Dane said:
I'm a manipulative douche and a scam artist.
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That IS all language directly quoted (pasted) from your post (#68) btw. Just "edited" to state something completely different.
 
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If the video about inciting Junior's supporters to violence is true (massive "if"), that contractor deserved to get fired and never be allowed near a political event again. That kind of garbage has no place in a peaceful election.

Creamer, being in charge of that particular leg of the campaign stepped down because that is how leadership works. This obviously an alien concept for Junior and his team.

Now, lets look at how this actually reflects on Trump and his supporters. To find the actions of the contractor awful, you have to acknowledge that Trump supporters can be incited to violence by wearing a T-shirt they don't like. What does that say about them and the environment Junior is fostering at his events?

Also, look at how Junior and his team react when confronted with their own words and actions. They either flat out deny it or double down on it.
 
Aepervius said:
Veritas is the word for truth in latin, so same irony.
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It really is the best indicator that someone is full off crap. IF they have to cal lthemselves the Truth Squad, or Truth Troopers, or Truth Movement, you can be sure that they are peddling the farthest thing from it.
 
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