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Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VI

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sunmaster14 said:
Bill Clinton sexually assaulted women. Donald Trump, as far as we know, only joked about doing it. Furthermore, Bill was carrying on at least his legal sexual escapades in the White House. Donald Trump would likely be too old for that to be a concern.
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Oh so desperate. Trump has hit a series of icebergs and you're the band still playing that same old song. For God sake, get off the ship. This one is headed to the bottom of the Atlantic.
 
acbytesla said:
Oh so desperate. Trump has hit a series of icebergs and you're the band still playing that same old song. For God sake, get off the ship. This one is headed to the bottom of the Atlantic.
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Have you given up all pretense of debating in good faith?
 
sunmaster14 said:
Bill Clinton sexually assaulted women. Donald Trump, as far as we know, only joked about doing it. Furthermore, Bill was carrying on at least his legal sexual escapades in the White House. Donald Trump would likely be too old for that to be a concern.
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ESL??

He most certainly did admit to doing it.

Harth and her longtime boyfriend were in meetings with Trump to forge a business partnership. “He was relentless,” Harth recalled in an interview, describing how on Dec. 12, 1992, he took the couple to dinner and a club — and then situated himself beside Harth and ran his hands up her skirt, to her crotch. “I didn’t know how to handle it. I would go away from him and say I have to go to the restroom. It was the escape route.”
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That's the accusation. The confirmation was the bus video. Get a clue.
 
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Donald called Tyson rape conviction 'a travesty' in 1992 radio interview

Trump vigorously and very publicly defended Tyson during his rape trial in early 1992, proposing that Tyson be allowed to pay off victim Desiree Washington with money from future boxing fights instead of serving time in prison. Speaking with "NBC Nightly News" on Feb. 21, 1992, he said Tyson was "railroaded in the case" and suggested the victim wasn't a victim at all. Trump also told "New York" magazine Tyson relayed to him that the victim "wanted it real bad."

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"It's so sad because I've known Mike more or less from the beginning," said Trump. "He started off having his first fights at my place and he's had his biggest fights at Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. He was so incredible and the last few years he's just not been the same — number one he's not been the same fighter, he's not been the same man, he's not been the same anything."

"The truth is he's been very loyal to me, he has most of his fights at my places," added Trump. "He does best at my places in terms of his best fights and he's been great and I just hate to see what's happened to him. It's a travesty, it's a travesty."
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sunmaster14 said:
There is no doubt that Hillary and Bill are a package deal. They said so even back in 1992. Why wouldn't Bill play a huge role in a Hillary Presidency? He might even be more influential in her administration than Dick Cheney was in W's.
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Non sequitur.
 
A criticism of the Democratic primary process was that it heavily favored the establishment candidate, to the detriment of challengers. But the Republican process in some ways disfavored the establishment candidates, resulting in pretty much the most anti-establishment nominee imaginable. Subject for discussion: How could the Republican primary process be revised to prevent another Trump, but still allow a reasonable variety of challengers?
 
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Bob001 said:
A criticism of the Democratic primary process was that it heavily favored the establishment candidate, to the detriment of challengers. But the Republican process in some ways disfavored the establishment candidates, resulting in pretty much the most anti-establishment nominee imaginable. Subject for discussion: How could the Republican primary process be revised to prevent another Trump?
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Less emphasis on OMG! God!
 
sunmaster14 said:
Furthermore, Bill was carrying on at least his legal sexual escapades in the White House. Donald Trump would likely be too old for that to be a concern.
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IIRC this is the second time you've said 70-year-olds are too old for sex.

Not if you do it right ;)

And I'm not grasping the critical nature of the location.
 
sunmaster14 said:
There is no doubt that Hillary and Bill are a package deal. They said so even back in 1992. Why wouldn't Bill play a huge role in a Hillary Presidency? He might even be more influential in her administration than Dick Cheney was in W's.
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Even if this were all true, is there a problem with that?
 
Maybe that drag video with Giuliani is literally how Trump's sexual advances work. He nuzzles "her" neck then moves down to nuzzling the boobs - Rudy slaps him and says "naughty boy!" or something like that.

It puts me in mind of a dog humping a leg - maybe a rolled-up newspaper would work.
 
Minoosh said:
IIRC this is the second time you've said 70-year-olds are too old for sex.

Not if you do it right ;)

And I'm not grasping the critical nature of the location.
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No, I don't think 70 is too old for sex. I just think that one's libido drops with age. The kind of sexual assault that Bill Clinton and Donald Trump are alleged to have perpetrated almost certainly arises from a competition between the libido and the superego, which the libido wins. At 70, it's a lot easier for the superego to win out.
 
Bob001 said:
A criticism of the Democratic primary process was that it heavily favored the establishment candidate, to the detriment of challengers. But the Republican process in some ways disfavored the establishment candidates, resulting in pretty much the most anti-establishment nominee imaginable. Subject for discussion: How could the Republican primary process be revised to prevent another Trump, but still allow a reasonable variety of challengers?
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Super delegates. ;) Only kidding.

Look, there is nothing wrong with a non-establishment candidate. The problem is much deeper than that. The problem in the GOP is the absurdity of the discourse. The GOP is more a wing of shock right wing radio now. That cannot continue. At first it was a useful tool. Now it is Frankenstein. A candidate like Donald Trump would have been impossible 25 years ago, but someone like him became inevitable.

The bad news is that Trump has broken the party. The good news is that Trump broken the party and it can and will be reborn. But it will be different.
 
Cleon said:
Yeah, and the last time it was his "reasoning" for disbelieving the accusations against Roger Ailes.

Oops.
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It was a reason for disbelieving that the allegations were about recent behavior. As far as I know, Gretchen Carlson was dredging up incidents from a long time ago.
 
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