Split Thread Signs of the End Times

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Paul Bethke said:
Yes I have also heard many a song and dance—but the culmination is not set.
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And you are the one here with the same old tired song and dance routine.

You claimed you were going to prove the existence of Yahweh - you have not even tried. Your little act now only cements my earlier impressions of you as intellectually cowardly - you make assertions and then run when asked to back those assertions up.
 
Paul Bethke said:
Yes I have also heard many a song and dance—but the culmination is not set.
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You avoided the question yet again. It's clear you have no answers, and the "just wait until my god wakes up" excuse is no longer valid.

You were asked questions about the dating of Noah's flood. Please answer. You were asked questions about year 5777 as the start of the end times. Please answer. All we ever get from you is song and dance, whereas in the same 2000 years secular humanity has become literate, invented the computer, gone to the Moon, split the atom, and discovered the building blocks of life. All without your long-running superstition.
 
Paul Bethke said:
Yes I have also heard many a song and dance—but the culmination is not set.
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Well, according to your scriptures, 2000+ years ago two different crowds were told that some of them would be alive when these things came to culmination...where are, in fact, these 2000-year-old audience members?
 
Paul Bethke said:
The Biblical data places the Flood at 2304 BC ± 11 years.

http://creation.com/the-date-of-noahs-flood

Thank you for your interest!
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Which source of the Torah is your link using? Notoriously, the earliest manuscripts and other witnesses to the oldest versions of the Torah disagree flagrantly on the chronology of these mythical events. See this paper and the myriad other scholarly works that discuss this phenomenon, which your laughable source doesn't even mention!

This table indicates the wide discrepancy in the number of years assigned by the various recensions (the Masoretic Text, the Septuagint, the Samaritan Torah, and the version used by the chronicler Josephus) to the period separating Adam from Noah.

MT 1,656

LXX (Alex.) 2,262

LXX (Vat.) 2,242

Sam. Pent. 1,307

Josephus 2,256
 
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Paul Bethke said:
Well you may just have to wait a "little longer"--once I get the go ahead, then you will know--in the meantime, prepare to meet the Creator.
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Why should we wait for indisputable evidence that you're right when we already have ample indisputable evidence that you're wrong?
 
Pixel42 said:
Why should we wait for indisputable evidence that you're right when we already have ample indisputable evidence that you're wrong?
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Odd. He hasn't responded to a single one of my posts. I think Paul may have blocked me...
 
Pixel42 said:
Why should we wait for indisputable evidence that you're right when we already have ample indisputable evidence that you're wrong?
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In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
 
JayUtah said:
You avoided the question yet again. It's clear you have no answers, and the "just wait until my god wakes up" excuse is no longer valid.

You were asked questions about the dating of Noah's flood. Please answer. You were asked questions about year 5777 as the start of the end times. Please answer. All we ever get from you is song and dance, whereas in the same 2000 years secular humanity has become literate, invented the computer, gone to the Moon, split the atom, and discovered the building blocks of life. All without your long-running superstition.
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I have responded.
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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Reality being one of them.
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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...which was prophesied to happen "soon"...2000 years ago.

(Pull the other one, a bell it's got.)
 
Paul Bethke said:
I have responded.
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What OP thinks he's doing when he dodges a question:

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What he's ACTUALLY doing:

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Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.

The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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Nope. That is a monstrous misrepresentation of your history.

Where is the withered grass at the world cup in South Africa? Where exactly is it? That event took place six years ago. No withering occurred. You flat out lied.

Where is the blindness you promised to visit upon all those you disliked? Didn't happen either, did it?

By any measure, you are a false prophet.

In the spirit of fairness, perhaps we should examine your current prophecies. Oops, we cannot examine those because you won't make any. The best you can manage is a one size fits nobody generic fuzzy blob of a pseudo prophecy that predicts nothing at all. What did you think anyone would make out of this baloney?
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—
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And what assurances do you have now versus then that you have taken everything into account? You have at various times claimed to be infallible. Now you're admitting that you were fallible then. What makes you think you aren't similarly fallible now?
 
Paul Bethke said:
In the past there were a few things that I did not take into account—now that I am aware of these critical events that I overlooked, it becomes clear why there was a delay.



The way a revelation works is that ALL details must be in place before anything can transpire. The END time scenario is a complexity of present day occurrences, which must be dealt with simultaneously.
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Because an all powerful God can't just do it whenever He feels like? Why does he need to wait for the stars to be aligned and all other crap people point to as "signs" before he acts? If your deity was actually all-powerful then he could just show up, and put a stop to all the shenanigans that displease him.

All we get though is a bunch of annoying zealots false prophets making excuses at a rate that makes Jake Blues seem like a paragon of "seeks and accepts responsibility".
 
abaddon said:
By any measure, you are a false prophet.
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Seriously. The sine qua non of prophecy is if the thing you prophesied actually happened. Any yutz can walk up to a tree and say, "Tomorrow this tree will be withered." If the tree doesn't wither, it makes absolutely no practical or theoretical difference whether the yutz was just a charlatan pulling everyone's leg or a sincere fellow who just hadn't finished reading the instruction manual yet.

In the spirit of fairness, perhaps we should examine your current prophecies. Oops, we cannot examine those because you won't make any.
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He'll insinuate them. 7 is a magic numeral in Judaism, so the year 5777 will be the year in which the end times start. That's what he said until asked specifically about it, whereupon he backed away -- but only a little. See, he still wants to be thought of as a prophet, but he doesn't want to bear the consequences should he be wrong.

So he does what every other false prophet does: he claims his prophecies are conditional, contingent upon things he can't know about and which are out of his control. And he doesn't realize that makes him exactly the same as any yutz who tries to predict something: things that affect the outcome are things he doesn't know about and are outside his control.

Give 'em the ol' razzle-dazzle.
 
Just couldn't resist.

Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.
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Donald Rumsfeld - 2002
 
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