Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
That's not correct we know from numerous scientific disciplines (like all of them) that the the universe is considerably older than 5777 years.
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That's not correct we know from numerous scientific disciplines (like all of them) that the the universe is considerably older than 5777 years.
Border Reiver
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No more significant than 777, 1777, 2777, 3777, and 4777 were.
Why should an allegedly all-powerful being need to wait for a particular year? It's not like anything could say,"Sorry, you have to wait." and make it stick. I mean, if He was feeling lazy he could put this judgement off for a year or two hundred and really, what could you do about it?
People who say, "God must do these things on Date X, because the signs are here" are just trying to impose controls on Yahweh. And isn't there some Bible verse about not knowing when He would return?
Crossbow
Seeking Honesty and Sanity
Just more of your usual crap.
Every time you fail, you ask for more time and/or provide citations from your fairy book. I am not one of those stupid, mindless, terrified religious people who needs to be continually lied to by a religious leader in order to keep his faith.
If this God of yours does actually does exist, then you would not have to shovel so much crap in order to cover the horrible flaws in your logic.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
I didn't say you had zeal. I said you were a zealot. There's a difference.
Quite the contrary. When you oppress minorities or seek to deprive people of their rights or otherwise behave egregiously, the excuse is always that your god told you to do it. Your kind has had 5,000 years to show any evidence of the validity of that excuse, but you can't do it. The world is tired of your sort of bluster. If you want to be racist or sexist, go right ahead. But man up and take the consequences of that yourself. Don't foist responsibility off on some invisible imaginary friend.
Typical irrelevant spewage. You typed "zeal" into your computer Bible software and just mindlessly copypasted what came up.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Your predictions have already failed, so we don't need to wait in order to call you the false prophet you obviously are.
As for the rest of the stuff, the believers have had 5,000 years to show us any evidence of their god. The best they can do is speculatively attribute things to him after the fact, and spew endless streams of excuses and platitudes.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
Is that yet another prophecy? What will you do when this one too fails to come to pass? Will you make more lame excuses and more blustery warnings? How much more of a fool are you going to make of yourself before giving up this delusion of grandeur?
Nay_Sayer
I say nay!
I doubt ever, Then again I've doubted his sincerity for a long time and think this is just a character.
Paul Bethke
Philosopher
That does not mean that I do not have zeal—a zealot is an extremist, so I do have an extreme zeal for the truth that Yahweh is the only God and the Creator of all things.
God may be invisible, but through the word he becomes real to those who put his word into practice. We do not deal with the rights of people, BUT the wrongs.Your kind seem to relish in the wrongs of people.
Well that is what a concordance is used for—you seem to be a very unhappy person!
Paul Bethke
Philosopher
No it was not a prophecy in that sense—but a reference to the fact that 7s have a significant reference in Scripture.
There is no magic in seven, but what one looks at is the affairs of the world and compares them with what is recorded—if what is seen as a parallel then we understand from that, that the intervention of the Creator is eminent.
A prime example is in what Jesus referred to--Luk_17:26 "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
So from my observation of the world, especially South Africa, we are in the same state as the people in the days of Noah before the flood.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
Sorry- what?
I see no relevance whatsoever in your post, to my original. Was this somehow supposed to answer my requests?
Leaving the issue of the irrelevance of your drivel, and just to demonstrate how to answer posts, are you sayiing that the day of judgement will happen this (Jewish) year? Can we quote you on that next year?
Given this now-concrete timetable, you now have one year to save my soul. You know what will do that, what it will take for me to believe, repent, stop drinking blood and all the rest of it: show me evidence. If you continue to refuse to do so, how do you think your god will react? How will you explain to him that you had a sinner begging for help, yet you ignored him?
It's not just my soul at stake here, you know....
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
So if people are "eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage" that means "the intervention of the Creator is eminent" (I assume Paul meant imminent). Well those are certainly things that are happening right now, so I guess this year really must be the one. And they were also happening last year, so that must have been the one too. And the year before that. In fact, the creator must have intervened every year for thousands of years. Bit odd we haven't noticed, really.
Slowvehicle
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When, in your opinion (within, of course, the last 5777 years, since you claim that as the age of the earth) is ƴ ͤ fludde to be supposed to have taken place? When were these "days of Noah" about which you go on?
Paul Bethke
Philosopher
The Biblical data places the Flood at 2304 BC ± 11 years.
http://creation.com/the-date-of-noahs-flood
Thank you for your interest!
Paul Bethke
Philosopher
Sorry- what?
I see no relevance whatsoever in your post, to my original. Was this somehow supposed to answer my requests?
Leaving the issue of the irrelevance of your drivel, and just to demonstrate how to answer posts, are you sayiing that the day of judgement will happen this (Jewish) year? Can we quote you on that next year?
Given this now-concrete timetable, you now have one year to save my soul. You know what will do that, what it will take for me to believe, repent, stop drinking blood and all the rest of it: show me evidence. If you continue to refuse to do so, how do you think your god will react? How will you explain to him that you had a sinner begging for help, yet you ignored him?
It's not just my soul at stake here, you know....
So you are saying that when I provide indisputable evidence then you will convert to the faith?
abaddon
Penultimate Amazing
Odd that the chinese were experiencing drought during that very period. How do you reconcile the drought in the chinese Banshan period with your imaginary global flood? Or that the Sahara has been as arid as it is today since before that date?
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
IF you provide indisputable evidence for your faith every sceptic will convert to it.
Slowvehicle
Membership Drive , Co-Ordinator,, Russell's Antin
No, thank YOU for finally answering the question. Here is its follow-up:
Be so kind as to explain why there is neither written nor physical evidence of such an event, especially as (in your opinion) it happened during a well-known historical period...and yet no mesoamerican or oriental civilization records any such, nor its aftereffects.
ETA: ninja-ed by abaddon...
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Slowvehicle
Membership Drive , Co-Ordinator,, Russell's Antin
You REALLY need to learn the proper use of the subjunctive.
Craig4
Penultimate Amazing
Then evidence for the flood should be easy to find.
JayUtah
Penultimate Amazing
That wasn't my point.
Yes, dangerously and irrationally so. You apply the Bible to support your racism and delusions of grandeur. That makes you dangerous and irrational, not just for the nefarious purposes to which you warp religion, but in your inability to determine whether religious texts are objectively factual.
A concordance is used to find text that employs a certain word or phrase across a set of purportedly congruent examples. It's an automated process these days, requiring nothing more than a day's worth of computer programming. But you can't program into a computer the ability to determine whether the mention of a word is relevant to a particular discussion. That requires knowledge and thought, neither of which you typically display in your wanton spew of random Bible passages.
That's right, just keep trying to poison that well.
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