Mader Levap
Graduate Poster
- Joined
- Dec 19, 2012
- Messages
- 1,576
He does not have time to recover, like last time he went down in polls (that took 1.5 month). And he still has two debates. He is screwed.
-
Security incident: ISF was recently accessed by intruders. Please change your password, and change it anywhere else you used it. Read more
Trump runs for POTUS/ Trumped Up! Part VI
- Thread starter NoahFence
- Start date
- Status
CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
Only those who have renounced him three times ere cockcrow.
CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
Let's get to shovelling it into the air-conditioning, then. Never mind the quality, just get the stuff flying.
I understand that the next debate is on foreign policy and there's been an amusing intervention from Russia, formally complaining to the UN about a speech criticising Trump.
Why Russia has done that, I don't know - surely they must know it would be counterproductive? And no, I don't think that it's reverse psychology, because Trump would make the Wrst weaker and thus Russia relatively stronger. We know that Putin believes in a zero-sum foreign-policy model.
He also correctly drew attention to Donald's, "outrageous statements about the innocent men in the Central Park Five case."
There is plenty of quality stuff. It wasn't as if they were skeletons in the closet - they were in the front room. which was more ominous and about as credible as Baron Frankenfurter's abode.
Childlike Empress
Banned
"Russia" didn't do it, Vitaly Churkin did, and he was specifically complaining about Zeid Ra'ad al-Hussein's ramblings wasting everybody's time (again). Google it and you will just find a bunch of third class rags pontificating on the AP story which broke this.
acbytesla
Penultimate Amazing
- Joined
- Dec 14, 2012
- Messages
- 40,969
Oh some morons will. But not enough to save the Orange Creep. It's over. Women are turning on him and he can't get them back. (Not that he had many of them anyway) FYI: Reports are that women are swamping the Clinton campaign asking to volunteer.
He's Russia's Ambassador to the UN so unless you are suggesting he did this all by himself without instructions then yeah it was 'Russia' that complained. Trump is a racist who wants to strip people of their rights if he becomes president, its why the Russians are so fond of him.
Tony Stark
Philosopher
- Joined
- Nov 22, 2014
- Messages
- 9,626
I guarantee that Donald is incapable of understanding why this is a big deal. Yeah, he is capable of giving a really insincere apology that he read off a teleprompter after who knows how many takes, but when he is forced to address this live tomorrow, there is a very good chance that he will **** it up really badly.
Babbylonian
Penultimate Amazing
- Joined
- Feb 22, 2007
- Messages
- 14,103
Without direct contradiction from the Russian government (and probably an immediate recall), it is absolutely Russia. Fundamental to being an ambassador is that when such a person speaks they are speaking for the current government of their nation. Without that, they're not an ambassador at all.
Childlike Empress
Banned
It wasn't about Trump, it was about the High Commissioner on Human Rights "Prince" Zeid from the absolute monarchy Jordan not doing his job properly.
Next time Samantha Power throws a hissy, I'll blame it on "Amerika".
Mader Levap
Graduate Poster
- Joined
- Dec 19, 2012
- Messages
- 1,576
You seem to not understand what "ambassador" is. Check dictionary.
Yes, he isn't your ordinary immoral politician, he has no conception of morality. That's probably why he's sometimes made bizarre accusations because it's obvious to him that everyone would behave like him if they had the opportunity.
A colleague was chatting to me about the study of psychopaths and one researcher argues that the ones on the extreme have a non-human brain. It might fit Trump.
acbytesla
Penultimate Amazing
- Joined
- Dec 14, 2012
- Messages
- 40,969
The big difference is that they have audio.
You're right Trump has done a hundred things before this that should have made people turn away from him. But this is the proverbial straw. At some point it's just too much.
But guess what? At least 35 percent of the people will still vote for this clown. They'll rationalize it somehow. But Presidential elections really have nothing to do with those people. It's the casual voter who decide these elections. That and turnout.
Clinton has led in the polls the entire way, but Trump supporters have been much more fervent and thought more likely to vote. The latest on Trump will likely depress Republican turnout and motivate Hillary voters.
Trump has to change the dynamic and fast but I don't see how he can do that. This story has legs and is likely to be the news for quite a while. Voting has already started. I expect my ballot next week and in the mail within 10 days.
CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
You work the quality end, then, and I'll work the cheap and nasty. No point in spoiling a ship for a ha'porth of malice.
CapelDodger
Penultimate Amazing
On the not unreasonable assumption that Trump's gradual advance was the result of Republican tribalism overcoming an initial repugnance, this could well shake all of that loose. Respected Republicans cutting loose with extreme prejudice serves to justify this in Republican eyes.
We shall see in the polls. An interesting experiment.
Last edited:
Buckaroo
Graduate Poster
Of the Republicans who have abandoned him, how many, I wonder, are doing it because they're genuinely repulsed by the tape, and how many because they see the polls shifting south? I'm betting 95% the latter.
acbytesla
Penultimate Amazing
- Joined
- Dec 14, 2012
- Messages
- 40,969
I only wish this surfaced 2 weeks from now. I can't imagine Trump quitting but there are a lot of things that have happened in my life that I couldn't imagine.
The number of Republicans heading for the exits and the number calling for him to quit seems to be growing exponentially. While Trump could care less about him, I have to wonder how he continues to campaign.
- Status