Continuation Part 22: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[acbytesla]

From Wrap:

http://www.thewrap.com/luke-cage-far-more-media-mentions-than-westworld-amanda-knox/

This is based on statistical market research figures and seems to suggest you and Casper are deluded if you think you are the 'majority' opinion.

I doubt it. I have a Google alert for every published article written that mentions Amanda Knox and virtually EVERY ONE puts a pro-Knox spin on it. But whatever. You can believe in fantasies. Me, I limit my fantasies to sex. The rest are a waste of time.

 

[Bill Williams]

Looks bad for the PGP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at this..
http://moviepilot.com/p/amanda-knox-truthers-guilty-innocent/4111460
In many ways, these forums do serve a purpose. Reading over them, its safe to say that the Netflix documentary was a simplistic rendering of the events; a piece of entertainment that, although not pro-Knox, sympathised with her, and made Pisa and Mignini out to be idiots. It was biased. This case warrants not only a mere 90 minute documentary, but an TV series to go through all of the evidence, of which there are tens of thousands of legal documents. These websites can be seen to aim to paint a fuller picture of what happened. Yet, it is not just the truth they are fixated on:
Their Obsession With Meredith Kercher Is Creepy Meredith Kercher's death was a tragedy, and her family deserved justice.There are no two ways about it. But true justice can only be achieved by convicting the right person by weighing up the evidence and making the correct decision. Amanda Knox was vindicated, eventually, by an Italian supreme court, due to a lack of sufficient evidence pinning her to the case. Nevertheless, these "truther" websites are so fixated upon getting justice for Kercher, they rely on emotive arguments about her that are — apologies for being blunt — totally irrelevant to the case.


I am thinking that in a few hours everyone will be jumping on the Look at these Creepy Sites bandwagon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS SOOOO NEAT

It's at this point that those creepy websites, their webadministrators and their Gods would be foolish to advertise their sites.

As for me, the time I stopped giving these sites the benefit of any lingering doubt was running across Peter Quennell's "Tour of Pergugia", where it was advertised as what Meredith would be seeing if she'd not been brutally killed. If this had been a family member doing this that would have been one thing - but ballerina-botherer PQ!?

I hope PQ advertises his page far and wide.

But yes, this kind of comment restores one's faith in humanity - and makes the giant mass of the internet with "every opinion is equivalent" look a little more palatable. Thanks for digging this one out.

 

[Vixen]

And once again,

Edited by kmortis: 

Removed to comply with Rule 12 & Rule 0

, you seem blissfully unable to perceive that this is Pisa clearly trying to spin the situation (in which he's been exposed as a narcissistic, low-rent hack) into something else, and that therefore his version of events is absolutely not to be taken at face value.

It is, however, most interesting indeed that Pisa claims to have received daily personal briefings from Mignini, before and during the trial process. If true, it says quite a bit about both PoS individuals.

You're living in Cloud Cuckoo Land if you think Nick Pisa was the person who convicted the pair.

 

[Vixen]

My gosh, God Ergon is working overtime trying to smear the Netflix documentary! It must be consuming him in terms of time and effort. Has he run out of seriously ill children to con with his disgusting mumbo jumbo....?

What a malicious and disgraceful comment. It has no relevance whatever to this thread. It is a gratuitously nefarious and vindictive attack on a private individual who is not here to defend himself.

It reflects badly on you.

 

[Vixen]

Ok, so I'm kind of arguing with some dude on Twitter (Pat A. @pataz1). Anyway, you know how hard it can be when your the one that's not the expert... I told him I was going to go to my skeptics board and get some help with the experts.

So first question. He says.




Is this true.

Both correct. You'll find Pat really knows his stuff about this case.

 

[Vixen]

It's a hilarious study in low-intellect confirmation bias to see how various pro-guilt morons are now trying to interpret the short snatch of video from the Netflix documentary, in which Kercher was being filmed by Knox (on Knox's camera which also had a video function) at the Perugia Chocolate Festival. In the short clip, Kercher laughs and says - in an entirely good-natured, self-effacing, mock-embarrassment way that is so common in such a situation - something along the lines of "Oh, don't film me!".

The morons are now trying to suggest that Knox was somehow "ambushing" Kercher with the camera, against her (Kercher's) will, and that Kercher's "Don't film me" response was the serious act of an angry and annoyed Kercher, but that the evil, callous, predatory Knox kept filming Kercher regardless of Kercher's wishes.

Seriously, most pro-guilt commentators are clucking deranged. But little episodes such as this merely serve to act as handy, vivid illustrations of just how deranged, deluded and poisoned they truly are.

It highlights Amanda's crassness that she began filming Mez from behind, and explains in her book that she was pretending to an on the spot reporter asking her, 'and what do you think of the chocolate festival?'.

Mez smiles politely, turns her head away in embarrassment, looks back and Amanda has the bad manners to STILL be filming her, right in her face. Mez was forced to put her hand over the lens. Wouldn't any normal person?

How bizarre that Amanda should delete it from her phone, but not before emailing a friend the video of Mez.

Intrusive, imposing and improper.

 

[Vixen]

I am sure that the Netflix doc is changing perceptions.
This one talks about the tweet storms aimed and Magnini and Pisa;
http://moviepilot.com/p/mignini-vs-pisa-real-villain-amanda-knox-documentary/4111465
sample tweet;
Watching #AmandaKnox" on Netflix. Giuliano Mignini is a sexist buffoon who doesn't even understand how criminal forensics work.
And it quotes one of the best doc lines;
Knox said it best herself when she said:
"There is no trace of me in the room where Meredith was murdered. And there's no reliable trace of Raffaele in the room where Meredith was murdered. But you're trying to find the answer in my eyes, when the answer is right over there. You're looking at me. Why? These are my eyes. They're not objective evidence."
things look rough for the Vixen pals.

It's a measure of how manipulative the film is, for Mignini was referring to an 'unknown' man 'would not have covered the victim with a blanket'.

The fact that Amanda and her fanboys had to put in the subtitles (Mignini does not speak English) 'only a woman would have put a blanket over the body,', shows how desperate they are to spin public opinion that they have to resort to fraud in order to portray Mignini as a sexist ****.

In fact, it is very shrewd of him to notice it as a sign of a staged scene.

How strange to taunt, 'you can't prove I did it!'

 

[Vixen]

Looks bad for the PGP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look at this..
http://moviepilot.com/p/amanda-knox-truthers-guilty-innocent/4111460
In many ways, these forums do serve a purpose. Reading over them, its safe to say that the Netflix documentary was a simplistic rendering of the events; a piece of entertainment that, although not pro-Knox, sympathised with her, and made Pisa and Mignini out to be idiots. It was biased. This case warrants not only a mere 90 minute documentary, but an TV series to go through all of the evidence, of which there are tens of thousands of legal documents. These websites can be seen to aim to paint a fuller picture of what happened. Yet, it is not just the truth they are fixated on:
Their Obsession With Meredith Kercher Is Creepy
Meredith Kercher's death was a tragedy, and her family deserved justice.
There are no two ways about it. But true justice can only be achieved by convicting the right person by weighing up the evidence and making the correct decision. Amanda Knox was vindicated, eventually, by an Italian supreme court, due to a lack of sufficient evidence pinning her to the case. Nevertheless, these "truther" websites are so fixated upon getting justice for Kercher, they rely on emotive arguments about her that are — apologies for being blunt — totally irrelevant to the case.


I am thinking that in a few hours everyone will be jumping on the Look at these Creepy Sites bandwagon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS IS SOOOO NEAT

Yeah, who needs a law court? Let's just make a movie, pretending to be 'objective', and make up an exoneration and wrongful conviction.

 

[Bill Williams]

It's a measure of how manipulative the film is, for Mignini was referring to an 'unknown' man 'would not have covered the victim with a blanket'.

The fact that Amanda and her fanboys had to put in the subtitles (Mignini does not speak English) 'only a woman would have put a blanket over the body,', shows how desperate they are to spin public opinion that they have to resort to fraud in order to portray Mignini as a sexist ****.

In fact, it is very shrewd of him to notice it as a sign of a staged scene.

How strange to taunt, 'you can't prove I did it!'

Your use of the word "fanboys" betrays how weak your argument is.

Rudy was not unknown to Meredith, nor Meredith to Rudy - so there goes that excuse you use for Mignini's wrongful prosecution. John Douglas says that covering a body is also a sign of a first time kill.

So who is "spinning public opinion"?

 

[Vixen]

I doubt it. I have a Google alert for every published article written that mentions Amanda Knox and virtually EVERY ONE puts a pro-Knox spin on it. But whatever. You can believe in fantasies. Me, I limit my fantasies to sex. The rest are a waste of time.

LOL and you have the temerity to tell me to get a life.

2. Looks like you have a lot in common with Trump.

 

[Bill Williams]

What a malicious and disgraceful comment. It has no relevance whatever to this thread. It is a gratuitously nefarious and vindictive attack on a private individual who is not here to defend himself.

It reflects badly on you.

LOL!

You have smeared EVERY expert who has said this was a Rudy-only crime! Tell me what you think of Dr. Peter Gill again!? It was you a few posts ago who called Judge Boninsegna a "pipsqueak" for saying that it the kids' exoneration was a judicial truth.

You are really unbelievable sometimes! Emptor Caveat.

 

[acbytesla]

LOL and you have the temerity to tell me to get a life.

2. Looks like you have a lot in common with Trump.

Yep, I do. It takes getting out once in while to understand.

I'm not sure what I could have in common with Trump other than we both know Knox is innocent.
Seriously though, sex is better than posting lies on the Internet. You should try it.

 

[Vixen]

Your use of the word "fanboys" betrays how weak your argument is.

Rudy was not unknown to Meredith, nor Meredith to Rudy - so there goes that excuse you use for Mignini's wrongful prosecution. John Douglas says that covering a body is also a sign of a first time kill.

So who is "spinning public opinion"?

Actually that is an intelligent comment. Do you really think that Mignini is going to make a ridiculous comment that *only* a woman would ever do that?

This underlines the thrust of his reasoning, that whoever did it had some familairity with the victim as a person. Therefore, he reasoned, the body was covered by the same person who staged the burglary.

Forensic evidence proves that Rudy exited Mez' room, straight out of the front door. He went home, changed and went to a nightclub.

Therefore, the only remaining suspect would be one of the housemates, and Amanda was the only one around that weekend.

It is not so Mignini had a fixation on Amanda, for at that stage, Filomena was equally in the frame and was questioned closely.

 

[Vixen]

Yep, I do. It takes getting out once in while to understand.

I'm not sure what I could have in common with Trump other than we both know Knox is innocent.
Seriously though, sex is better than posting lies on the Internet. You should try it.

Heh, so you'll be trading in the old model for a Melania facsimile. LOL.

 

[Vixen]

LOL!

You have smeared EVERY expert who has said this was a Rudy-only crime! Tell me what you think of Dr. Peter Gill again!? It was you a few posts ago who called Judge Boninsegna a "pipsqueak" for saying that it the kids' exoneration was a judicial truth.

You are really unbelievable sometimes! Emptor Caveat.

Dr Gill and Judge Boninsegna are germane to the case and it is fair comment to criticise the quality of their professional input.

Using the forum to launch a hateful attack on another person just because they have a different view from you, designed to damage their reputation and livelihood and which has nothing to do with the topic on hand, is clearly different.

 

[Bill Williams]

Dr Gill and Judge Boninsegna are germane to the case and it is fair comment to criticise the quality of their professional input.

Using the forum to launch a hateful attack on another person just because they have a different view from you, designed to damage their reputation and livelihood and which has nothing to do with the topic on hand, is clearly different.

Right. Just keep repeating that.

Fan boy. Pipsqueak. Fair game.

You have a peculiar set of morals.

 

[Stacyhs]

What? Mignini does indeed say if the kids are innocent then he hopes they don't suffer, but not in the context the film portrays it . It lets the viewer believe this is Mignini's supercilious insincerity and puffed up pomposity.

Mignini came across as a lot more honest and credible than anybody else in the film, apart from Arline Kercher.

How would you know how the film portrays it or how Mignini appears as I doubt you've even seen the docu. Twice before I've asked if you've actually seen it and you've never answered. Would that be because you have seen it or because you know admitting you haven't seen it makes your statements even less credible?

Try reading the reviews. Mignini and Pisa are both highly criticized...and not for being honest and credible.

 

[Vixen]

How would you know how the film portrays it or how Mignini appears as I doubt you've even seen the docu. Twice before I've asked if you've actually seen it and you've never answered. Would that be because you have seen it or because you know admitting you haven't seen it makes your statements even less credible?

Try reading the reviews. Mignini and Pisa are both highly criticized...and not for being honest and credible.

That's because gullible viewers were conned into believing the 'documentary' was made in good faith, that Mignini used 'Sherlock Holmesian hunches' and that Nick Pisa thought getting a headline 'was like having sex' (what is it with you guys?).

You may have noticed that none of the evidence was mentioned, apart from the bra-clasp and knife, which a hard-faced Vecchiotti proclaimed was contaminated. It was also claimed the pair were exonerated and headlines came up saying 'stunning flaws' and 'media'.

Did you really expect Nick Pisa was going to be anything other than an ambitious hack? And it's true, these guys want to see their stories on the front page. Half the stuff they write is edited, changed and cut by sub-editors. It may bear little resemblance to the original article. In addition, although the hack writes the article, they don't get to write the headlines, so to ascribe all those salacious headlines to Nick Pisa shows ignorance of how the tabloids work. As Pisa said, "That's not how it works.'

 

[Vixen]

Right. Just keep repeating that.

Fan boy. Pipsqueak. Fair game.

You have a peculiar set of morals.

Fan boy, pipsqueak = conman conning seriously ill children.

Do you consider that proportionate?

The directors and producers of the Netflix film are pro-Amanda advocates, thus 'fanboys' is a fair uncontroversial comment. Judge Boninsegna decided to rewrite the Supreme Court's determination. As a minor official compared to a higher court judge, 'pipsqueak' is fair, uncontroversial comment.

 

[Bill Williams]

Fan boy, pipsqueak = conman conning seriously ill children.

Do you consider that proportionate?

The directors and producers of the Netflix film are pro-Amanda advocates, thus 'fanboys' is a fair uncontroversial comment. Judge Boninsegna decided to rewrite the Supreme Court's determination. As a minor official compared to a higher court judge, 'pipsqueak' is fair, uncontroversial comment.

Right. Keep repeating that.

Wait - you actually DO keep repeating this!