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Merged The MANDELA Effect.

Porpoise of Life said:
The secret is not to think about it too much.
Just enough so you can deflect any criticism and feel special about yourself, but not enough to become aware of the horrifying problems this constant reality shifting would cause.
Remember: your feelings are more important than any fact.
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I think the real secret is to be convinced that you have thought about it enough to know that it's a real thing.

Any objections, therefore, can not be real, or else you would have come up with them yourself, and thought them convincing at that time.
 
MuDPhuD said:
...and they apparently have no idea how frail and subject to distortion their memories actually are.

By the way does anyone remember a scene in Dr. No where Bond (Connery) hides in his bedroom while a villain unloads his machine pistol into the pillows in the bed, and then Bond comes out and says "you've had your sixty, now here's my 6", and proceeds to unload his PPK into the man after he's already down. It was a bit gruesome, and appears to have been altered in recent versions of the film on disc?

If it turns out that others also remember this altered scene I will suspect CONSPIRACY!
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I remember one with the reverse in a more recent Bond movie (can't remember which one), where the bad guy shows up with a machine gun with a shield on the front and says something about "you've had your six, here's my six hundred".
 
True Story:

I'm at work in Carmel, California.

My co-worker comes over and says,"Pat Morita is in the store."

I look over and see a guy who looks like Pat Morita standing just inside the front door.

I say," No, can't be him. Pat Morita's dead"....but he wasn't...and he heard me...

I hid down in the stock room until he left. :rolleyes:

I swear to this day that I thought Pat Morita was dead at that time, in fact I even "recalled" an Entertainment Tonight segment on his death. None of that had happened, and I am at a loss as to how I had come to the belief that Pat Morita was dead when he clearly was not.:thumbsup:
 
Axxman300 said:
True Story:

I'm at work in Carmel, California.

My co-worker comes over and says,"Pat Morita is in the store."

I look over and see a guy who looks like Pat Morita standing just inside the front door.

I say," No, can't be him. Pat Morita's dead"....but he wasn't...and he heard me...

I hid down in the stock room until he left. :rolleyes:

I swear to this day that I thought Pat Morita was dead at that time, in fact I even "recalled" an Entertainment Tonight segment on his death. None of that had happened, and I am at a loss as to how I had come to the belief that Pat Morita was dead when he clearly was not.:thumbsup:
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Because reality had shifted...it's the only reasonable explanation.
 
Axxman300 said:
Or maybe my old CRT TV received broadcasts from the future...except for the lotto, sporting events, or anything worthwhile.
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Funny.. we have not one, but two new series about to premiere that each center around changing the past which alters the present.

Are time travelers just *********** with us? :p
 
Jim_MDP said:
Funny.. we have not one, but two new series about to premiere that each center around changing the past which alters the present.

Are time travelers just *********** with us? :p
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It might explain the Trump campaign.
 
Bram Kaandorp said:
It's a wonder that they can actually function in such a world. I know I wouldn't be able to, because I'd always second guess whether something is still the way I experienced it earlier.

"I wonder if the store is still where it was yesterday, and if the name is still spelled the same way." would be a constant thought I'd have.
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This reminds me of the Star Trek TNG episode in which Worf was bouncing between alternate universes at the end of a vacation. In one, he found Troi in his quarters and awkwardly found out that they were married. :D When he got back where he belonged, he found her in his quarters again to take care of a plant during his vacation or something like that, and had to check "so we are not married?", to which she responded "What's that supposed to mean?". :D

Do people who think they've bounced from one timeline to another ever think the differences are things that would personally matter to them? Or is it always distant, abstract stuff?
 
This has inspired me for a fictional story in which one character really experiences one real shift one time with no clue of how it happened or whether it could again. Somehow this got converted in my brain from going between universes in the present to jumping in time in this universe; (s)he then tries to warn people about some known disaster like September Eleventh 2001, isn't believed at first, and then is arrested for actually being involved when it really happens because only those who were in on the planning would have known...

It's silly to have these ideas flash into your brain when you already know you wouldn't and can't actually do anything with them anyway.
 
Pope130 said:
The Twilight Zone "Back There". Man travels back to 1865, tries to save Lincoln.
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Yeah, the time paradox is as old as science fiction, but SG-1 did a whole load of alternate timeline bits too. ISTR Daniel Jackson and Sam Carter doing some dimension-jumping-alternate-universe-saving on several occasions.

Dave
 
The specific parallel universe / alternate reality theory proponents need to explain the geographical limitations to me. As a south african, i can state that i highly doubt that a single south african living in the country ever thought that nelson mandela had died in the 80's. He was such a constantly celebrated (and in some cases reviled) figure here. His birthday was celebrated every year, his opinion would be sought for every political event subsequent to his retiring from office. There was rarely a moment that his health or opinion or presence or related charities weren't referenced in daily life in south africa, from the actions of the him and ANC between 1980 and 1990, to his presidential inauguration in 1994, retiring in '99 and death in 2013. There just wasn't a moment that he was not in the public consciousness.

So, alternate reality, explain yourself!! why do you hate africa?
 
I'm very skeptical and I always look for rational explanations. I've been following this phenomenon for a while and it's been very funny and entertaining. Until the movie They live! I clearly remember it with an exclamation mark in the title. It seems like 80 percent of people remember it that way.
I can't find a rational explanation, but I can't just jump to conclusion that multiverses are merging because some pop cultural references change.
Is there any other skeptic who has experienced something like so called Mandela effect?
Also Thanksgiving confusion baffles me.
 
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Veliki George said:
I can't find a rational explanation[...]
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Human memory is poor, and we are a creature who confabulates.

Is there any other skeptic who has experienced something like so called Mandela effect?
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Yes. I have a vivid memory from my childhood of an episode of Doctor Who in which K-9 is thrown down the stairs in a medieval castle. No such episodes exist. My explanation is that over time my memory has become confused and I have conflated a scene from one story in which K-9 is thrown off the ramp of a space ship, and the previous story, which has scenes set in a medieval castle.

As I say, human memory is poor, and we are a creature who confabulates.
 
Squeegee Beckenheim said:
Human memory is poor, and we are a creature who confabulates.



Yes. I have a vivid memory from my childhood of an episode of Doctor Who in which K-9 is thrown down the stairs in a medieval castle. No such episodes exist. My explanation is that over time my memory has become confused and I have conflated a scene from one story in which K-9 is thrown off the ramp of a space ship, and the previous story, which has scenes set in a medieval castle.

As I say, human memory is poor, and we are a creature who confabulates.
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Just an addition to this, current evidence suggests that memory isn't much like a recording. You don't have a memory stored somewhere that gets replayed. Instead, it's almost like memories are computer programs formed using numerous subroutines. In other words, when you remember an apple, there's not a single part of the brain that has a recording of an apple. Instead, one part stores the information (subroutine) about it's redness, and over there is info about the smell and taste of it, and this other part contains info on shape, etc. When you remember, those bits and pieces are re-associated to create the memory (just like a coder might pull in various functions and subroutines to put together a computer program).

And memory always changes; each time you remember something, the current environment/conditions get mixed in with the memory as well, because it's associative rather than recorded (I'm sure there's a word I can't think of here that's better than recorded...but you get the idea).

All that adds up to the fact that memory is fluid, and changes over time.
 
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