Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

[The Don]

Ok. Suppose I convince some of my friends to build drones and start killing people in the streets with them. Don't you think I would be found a criminal and put in prison?

The rules for individuals and private groups are very different than they are for governments. If you set up a private security force to patrol a neighbourhood and investigate crime they would be treated very differently than the police by the law in cases of interfering with police investigations or if someone is hurt or killed.

Likewise, if you start to "tax" people locally as a private organisation, you're very quickly going to come to the attention of the authorities - as a certain fraternal organisation of Sicilian gentlemen has found out over the years.

In the case of the drone strikes, first you need to demonstrate that the drone strikes are illegal under international law - which AFAIK they are not* and then you'd need to demonstrate that Secretary Clinton bore personal responsibility for them. The latter is very rarely found and only in cases where an individual has personally ordered specific attacks in circumstances where they knew it to be in breach of international law.

I know it's a repeating fantasy of the far left and anarchists that government members should be personally and criminally responsible for acts that the group find unacceptable (but those that they support are justified bu being for the good of the people ) but in the real world it really doesn't work that way.

That criminality and prison is something for the working class rather than the ruling class? Hardly an allegation, more like a patently obvious observation.

I see now that, unable to support your argument, you are slipping into generalities rather than addressing specifics. It is true that those with access to the very best legal representation are less likely to receive a custodial sentence than those who do not BUT:

• You have yet to provide any evidence for any kind of criminal wrongdoing - she's not free from jail because of the flaws in the criminal justice system. She's free from jail because she hasn't done anything that would warrant putting her there
• The sorts of crimes that you seem to be alleging (war crimes and crimes against humanity) are not those where a slick lawyer can get you community service and/or a fine rather than jail time
• Members of the "ruling class" as you term them do end up in prison

 

[Travis]

Can Hillary actually stand up for an hour and a half without collapsing? Doubtful.

Or suppress her frequent coughing fits? Again, doubtful.

Even with multiple bathroom breaks, she still better wear two or more diapers; they'll be soaked.

I'm just quoting this so he'll have to look at it again.

Of course she isn't, criminality and prison is something for the working class and not for the ruling class, like I said

On the contrary, observably true. The empty rhetoric would be the claim about how she's "not a criminal" - as if the notion of "criminal" is meaningful in that context.

Are you alleging that Hillary did commit crimes and is unjustly not serving prison time for them?

Do you think if she really did conspire for an ambassador to be killed because she "hates America" that she wouldn't go to prison for it?

 

[kmortis]

The "rule of law" and "ruling class v. common class" posts have been moved to their very own thread, please continue that thread over there.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: kmortis

 

[Seismosaurus]

These are oddly named threads, given that Hillary Clinton has led the polls for virtually the entire race. Wishful thinking?

 

[Travis]

These are oddly named threads, given that Hillary Clinton has led the polls for virtually the entire race. Wishful thinking?

While I'm the OP in two of them the real originator was someone that was always pretty sure Hillary was just weeks away from prison let alone the Presidency.

 

[kmortis]

The whole "Supply & Demand" discussion has been moved off to its very own thread in the Economics forum. Please continue it there.

Posted By: kmortis

 

[Foolmewunz]

The whole "Supply & Demand" discussion has been moved off to its very own thread in the Economics forum. Please continue it there.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: kmortis

Deja Vu All Over Again


Can I vote for a blue box?

 

[kmortis]

Deja Vu All Over Again


Can I vote for a blue box?

You know, playing with moderator communications is a big no-no.

 

[Foolmewunz]

You know, playing with moderator communications is a big no-no.

The conspiracy fans will love this one.

 

[kmortis]

The conspiracy fans will love this one.

Hillary told me to do it.





Gotta keep it on topic, yeah?

 

[Foolmewunz]

Many people say....

Assange's October Surprise has come out.

Hillary Clinton has been paying income taxes for the past twenty-five years. The loser!

She's Done!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Assange's October Surprise has come out.

Hillary Clinton has been paying income taxes for the past twenty-five years. The loser!

She's Done!

Linky?

I also remain unimpressed. Big announcement, Assange speaks from his embassy prison balcony. I call click bait.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Linky?

I also remain unimpressed. Big announcement, Assange speaks from his embassy prison balcony. I call click bait.

It was a joke. (I didn't realize he'd release a promise later in the day I wrote that to address the peasantry from his balcony sometime this week.)

 

[Tero]

Donald Trump is done. He is getting desperate. There is no politics left for the voters to judge them on. What they know of the Trump platform is what they will get, voting for Trump. But there will be no wall and no trade treaties will be repealed by congress and no 29 million jobs. All it is is a protest vote for Trump from now on. All the libertarians not voting their man, a loser, and all the Hillary haters. "I just can't trust Hillary." What, she is going to put presidential email in a server in Bill's basement next to his porn computer?

 

[PhantomWolf]

What, she is going to put presidential email in a server in Bill's basement next to his porn computer?

Worked for Bush, though it was in the GOP's basement next to their gay porn computer.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Someone filmed how the "handmade" signs are handed out at one of those "can't fill a school gym but we can arrange the morons for the camera view" Killary events. Likely they are painted by orphan kids in Haiti.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

Someone filmed how the "handmade" signs are handed out at one of those "can't fill a school gym but we can arrange the morons for the camera view" Killary events. Likely they are painted by orphan kids in Haiti.

She could hand out spent condoms and I'd vote for her over Trump.

 

[Foolmewunz]

Someone filmed how the "handmade" signs are handed out at one of those "can't fill a school gym but we can arrange the morons for the camera view" Killary events. Likely they are painted by orphan kids in Haiti.

Trump tried that, but half of his aides couldn't spell and the other half, by court order, aren't allowed to handle pointy objects.

Seriously?? You think that forty signs made with the same Pentel colors are an attempt to dupe the public? It's a design/style decision. Donnie likes his gold leaf slicky professionally made signs so it's a contrast. At this stage in a campaign every sign that enters an arena is vetted and if it's not one of the official slogans, taken away.

 

[The Atheist]

Trump tried that, but half of his aides couldn't spell and the other half, by court order, aren't allowed to handle pointy objects.

Nice.

 

[Childlike Empress]

arena

Arena? LOL. What you're saying is the fake signs are styled to fit the half-empty gym atmosphere? k. Nice touch.