Continuation Part 22: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

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Good review in the Guardian of the Netflix film:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...flixs-amanda-knox-she-was-cast-as-a-she-devil

Quennell and God Ergon must be aghast and righteously furious that the corruption machine has resulted in every single proper review (i.e. a review in a recognised, credible publication) being scathing of Mignini and Pisa, and broadly in agreement that Knox (and Sollecito) was wrongfully prosecuted.

On the other hand, there is an alternative explanation for that*............. :)


* Just as, indeed, there is an alternative (and entirely reasonable) explanation for the film's directors making prior pronouncements on the case that were pro-acquittal and critical of the likes of Mignini and Pisa. That alternative explanation, of course, is that this position is the correct and rational position that ought to be held by any person who is of a threshold intellect and who is sufficiently informed about this case.
 
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bagels said:
"It’s funny to think about that now, considering how Knox — and the brutal murder with which she’s associated — is now arguably the most famous figure from Perugia’s centuries-long history."

Amanda Knox puts 2300 year old city on the map....all because of a cartwheel....
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How lovely for her to get to line her pockets!
 
Wow, the PR campaign even paid off the Guardian! Or is it the mafia who paid them off? I can't keep track of who's buying off who this week.
 
Samzilla said:
Wow, the PR campaign even paid off the Guardian! Or is it the mafia who paid them off? I can't keep track of who's buying off who this week.
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It's not difficult. 60% of what you read in the press is the result of a 'press release'.

Guess what? From a PR agency.

And you thought you were being sarcastic. :o:D
 
Vixen said:
It's not difficult. 60% of what you read in the press is the result of a 'press release'.

Guess what? From a PR agency.

And you thought you were being sarcastic. :o:D
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Amanda Knox would have zero press if the Italian police were slightly more competent. You wouldn't even know the name Meredith Kercher. It would be as meaningless to you as the name "Katherine Horton."
 
Samzilla said:
Wow, the PR campaign even paid off the Guardian! Or is it the mafia who paid them off? I can't keep track of who's buying off who this week.
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The reasoning why the guilter nutcase PR meme never works is because people - in the main - are not stupid.

On what planet does some paper like The Guardian get robotically locked into a news release.......... just because!

The press reaction to the Netflix documentary has been almost universally positive. Nick Pisa in the doc brags about doing what PIP people have been accusing him of for years!

There are rare exceptions to this almost universally praise for the doc. Quennell and his God are trying to spread their PR version, but any reputable journalist who spends 5 minutes finding out who they are will immediately see who they are and what they've done.
 
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Vixen said:
How lovely for her to get to line her pockets!
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Yep, and she had to pay $2 million back to her dad for his "investment" in the "PR machine"!

But the rest of it went to paying for that luxurious apartment in Seattle and new yacht docked at the marina!
 
Vixen said:
It's not difficult. 60% of what you read in the press is the result of a 'press release'.

Guess what? From a PR agency.

And you thought you were being sarcastic. :o:D
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Citation for that "60%", please.

I won't wait up. I just love made up statistics.
 
Mike1711 said:
I also laughed...at lying Clinton. She is positively disgraceful and should hang her head in shame over Benghazi. Her as president makes me feel ill.

Off topic but just answering.
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Trying to be on topic, the only redeeming feature about Trump was that he supported Knox in the past, though to be honest I don't think he did any research into his opinions: his lack of preparation for the debate was execrable. Clinton is surely no Obama, though she did show extraordinary stamina in the Benghazi hearings (in which they couldn't lay a glove on her) I am sorry that one of her friends died in that horrific attack.
 
Vixen said:
I went to a seminar a few years ago given by a leading journalist. The figure he gave was higher than that.
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Ahhh! The impeccable sourcing of evidence that we've come to expect!!

And in any case, it's entirely moot in this instance since obviously there have been press screenings and copies sent out to credible media outlets for review. The person reviewing the movie for the Guardian will, without a shadow of doubt, have seen the film. And since it's the film that is the subject of his review, there's really nothing more to say.

Or does Vixen really believe in her own head that journalists publishing reviews of this film have not actually seen the film and made their own minds up, but have instead been sent press releases saying something like: "The new "Amanda Knox" film shows just how much injustice was inflicted upon Knox and Sollecito, illuminates the grandiose egomaniacal moralistic fervour of Mignini, and shows just what a comically nasty piece of work Pisa is. Write something along those lines in your review, OK?"

Lol.
 
LondonJohn said:
Ahhh! The impeccable sourcing of evidence that we've come to expect!!

And in any case, it's entirely moot in this instance since obviously there have been press screenings and copies sent out to credible media outlets for review. The person reviewing the movie for the Guardian will, without a shadow of doubt, have seen the film. And since it's the film that is the subject of his review, there's really nothing more to say.

Or does Vixen really believe in her own head that journalists publishing reviews of this film have not actually seen the film and made their own minds up, but have instead been sent press releases saying something like: "The new "Amanda Knox" film shows just how much injustice was inflicted upon Knox and Sollecito, illuminates the grandiose egomaniacal moralistic fervour of Mignini, and shows just what a comically nasty piece of work Pisa is. Write something along those lines in your review, OK?"

Lol.
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Knox was on "Good Morning America" this morning. In the brief interview with Robin Roberts about the coming netflix documentary, Knox was asked outright, why go the documentary route? The real money would have been in a film!

Knox talked about the last year being the first lengthy time of her adulthood where she has not been hunted. The documentary format - while not a money maker - allowed the other factors in what went wrong to be examined.

She didn't say it to Roberts, but given that Nick Pisa (originator of "Foxy Knoxy" tabloid headline) and Giuliano Mignini are in the documentary, it is clear what she means by "the other factors which went wrong".

There really is a moral imperative here to help other exonerees have similar light shone onto them.
 
whoanellie said:
http://nymag.com/thecut/2016/09/its-finally-possible-to-understand-the-amanda-knox-story.html

article about netflix movie
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This article is very interestinghttps://www.thrillist.com/entertainment/nation/amanda-knox-documentary-netflix-review
It is very well done and the author covers all the bases: many of the reviews are merely press releases but this article really digs deep: even saying that it should be required viewing in journalism classes to show the students how pisa enjoyed churning out the worst trash media lies in the British tabloids.
It also digs deep into the pro guilt and prosecutors delusional imaginings about "Amandas guilt" and how the bloody fingerprint of Guede on the wall and semen of Guede found in the body of the victim are not as important evidence as the blanket laid over the victims body, which proved the murderer had to be a woman.
 
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Another very interesting review of the film, this time with a fascinating piece of personal observation by the author:

http://lifestyle.one/grazia/news-real-life/real-life/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-netflix/


The article was written by a reporter who was actually sent out to Perugia to meet up with and assist Nick Pisa. The following passage is extremely interesting:

"Then something happened which I've thought about countless times since. An Italian journalist told us the police already had a suspect: 'the American housemate', as they called Knox. How could they have reached such a dramatic conclusion just a day after finding Meredith's body? When Nick called a senior detective, he confirmed police were questioning Knox. Three days later, she was arrested, along with her boyfriend Raffaelle Sollecito, and both were charged with murder and sexual violence."


Either this journalist is lying or mistaken, or (as we all reasonably suspect) the police and PM homed in on Knox breathtakingly early on - by late on 3rd November. It makes a mockery of the continuing claims of pro-guilt commentators (and others such as Mignini) that Knox was simply a witness - the same as every other housemate or friend of Kercher's - by the time she came in for the infamous 5th/6th November interrogation.

I have long been persuaded that the police "knew" Knox was heavily involved from a ridiculously early point, and that from then on they went fishing for evidence to support this belief - employing disgraceful levels of tunnel vision and confirmation bias in the process. And I am further persuaded that the police's conclusion was that Knox was heavily involved, and that Sollecito was lying (about him and Knox having spent that whole evening/night alone together in Sollecito's apartment) to cover for Knox, with whom he was infatuated.

And I believe it's a near-certainty that the police arranged and choreographed the 5th/6th November interrogation (perhaps at short notice, after learning that Knox's mother was arriving in Perugia on the 6th and would probably take Knox back to the US quickly) in a specific way: firstly, get the meek, pliable, infatuated, lying Sollecito in for interrogation, and "persuade" him that Knox was not worth lying for (and of the serious consequences for him if he continued to lie). Once Sollecito "buckled" (which I suspect the police/PM thought would be easy), the police would have gone out with all their sirens blaring to pick up Knox (having tipped off the media beforehand, of course), and got her in turn to "buckle" and tell them exactly how the murder had gone down, and who else was involved. I believe the police/PM probably "knew" Lumumba was the missing link in advance of Knox's interrogation, and that they were probably surveilling his house in advance. Once Knox "buckled" and named Lumumba, the police would go out again with sirens blaring and with the media in tow to complete the final piece of the jigsaw.

Caso chiuso.
 
LondonJohn said:
Another very interesting review of the film, this time with a fascinating piece of personal observation by the author:
http://lifestyle.one/grazia/news-real-life/real-life/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-netflix/
The article was written by a reporter who was actually sent out to Perugia to meet up with and assist Nick Pisa.
Caso chiuso.
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I saw that one and thought it was interesting and completely believable, since the PIP have always known the cops were Waco to get Amanda form the start.
This whole Netflix thing has not been good to Pisa: Maybe he, like Mignini, are just two twisted to know what they sound like when they talk greedy and downright goofy stuff.
 
LondonJohn said:
Another very interesting review of the film, this time with a fascinating piece of personal observation by the author:

http://lifestyle.one/grazia/news-real-life/real-life/amanda-knox-meredith-kercher-netflix/


The article was written by a reporter who was actually sent out to Perugia to meet up with and assist Nick Pisa. The following passage is extremely interesting:

"Then something happened which I've thought about countless times since. An Italian journalist told us the police already had a suspect: 'the American housemate', as they called Knox. How could they have reached such a dramatic conclusion just a day after finding Meredith's body? When Nick called a senior detective, he confirmed police were questioning Knox. Three days later, she was arrested, along with her boyfriend Raffaelle Sollecito, and both were charged with murder and sexual violence."


Either this journalist is lying or mistaken, or (as we all reasonably suspect) the police and PM homed in on Knox breathtakingly early on - by late on 3rd November. It makes a mockery of the continuing claims of pro-guilt commentators (and others such as Mignini) that Knox was simply a witness - the same as every other housemate or friend of Kercher's - by the time she came in for the infamous 5th/6th November interrogation.
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There is another explanation..... this could be classic post hoc reasoning.

One journalist is informed early on of (presumably) one policeperson's theory, which becomes, " How could they have reached such a dramatic conclusion just a day after finding Meredith's body?"

This is not evidence that "they" had come to this conclusion. It is also not a stretch to imagine that a single cop thought this, told a reporter, and the reporter simply noted it.

With all due respect, this shows the smoke but fails to pinpoint the fire.
 
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