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Presidential Debates

BobTheCoward said:
What does share even mean? That sounds like a conclusion without a basis in anything. if we established parameters for a person's share, and figured out Trump has done more for the government that exceeded this share, would you agree to have the government subsidize him?
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Yawn. Why are people so willing to buy this argument?

Don't you think zero is a tad less than the proverbial share you seem to think is impossible to calculate?
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yawn. Why are people so willing to buy this argument?

Don't you think zero is a tad less than the proverbial share you seem to think is impossible to calculate?
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I think based on whatever parameters we agree to, that share could be positive or negative. But if you are not willing to pay more in taxes to subsidize Trump if it turns out that was best for the budget, then you are just targeting people for personal reasons.
 
BobTheCoward said:
What does share even mean? That sounds like a conclusion without a basis in anything. if we established parameters for a person's share, and figured out Trump has done more for the government that exceeded this share, would you agree to have the government subsidize him?
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I wish she had said. So you admit paying little or no taxes, so why In the hell are you pushing to lower your taxes even more?
 
Just a brief incursion in this thread to say.

Clinton looked good, Trump, not so good.

Don't think Clinton lost several opportunities to finish Trump off. There are two debates in the future and silver bullets are expensive.

Both needed to look more like statespeople. Clinton did it, somewhat. Trump failed, but he shielded himself in his outsider persona. Both needed to look more personable. Trump gives a **** about that. Clinton didn't quite achieve it plenty, but made some progress. Her smile still looks like a bank manager's talking with an angry client who asked to see her.

No silver bullet is about lies. Nobody really gives a **** about lies this far in the campaign. Clinton has to show Trump to be grossly unprepared and pretty dumb for the oval office. Her "cavalier attitude" wasn't a lost opportunity. Let sleeping Trumps lie. Let Trump to be campaigning his way to 270 in states other than Ohio and Michigan, and show unprepared again as a one trick pony.
 
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Trump is now promising that his second debate performance will be better than his first debate performance:

Trump says he may hit ‘harder’ in next debate; Clinton tells reporters she had a ‘great, great time.’

Donald Trump on Tuesday insisted that Hillary Clinton did not get under his skin during their first debate and suggested that he may “hit her harder” in their next encounter by raising the subject of former President Bill Clinton’s infidelities.

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Trump maintained that the Democratic nominee did not unnerve him. “No, not at all,” he said on Fox News. “I didn’t see it that way.”

But he allowed that he was irritated “at the end, maybe” when Clinton brought up Trump’s treatment of Alicia Machado, a woman from Venezuela who was crowned the 1996 Miss Universe at age 19.

“She was the worst we ever had,” Trump said on Fox News’ “Fox and Friends,” adding: “She gained a massive amount of weight, and it was a real problem.”

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In another exchange, Trump seemed rattled as Clinton accused him of saying that climate change “is a hoax, perpetrated by the Chinese.”

“I do not say that, I do not say that,” Trump interjected, shaking his head — though he has done so several times.
 
Despite the fact that Lester Holt was wildly biased, twitter is absolutely blowing up with the hashtag:

#trumpwon!

The big take away was people thought that Lester "scored" with the whole Iraq War debacle until they realized that Hillary actually voted for it!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Donald, donald, donald
 
The Big Dog said:
Despite the fact that Lester Holt was wildly biased, twitter is absolutely blowing up with the hashtag:

#trumpwon!

The big take away was people thought that Lester "scored" with the whole Iraq War debacle until they realized that Hillary actually voted for it!

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Donald, donald, donald
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Yes screw polls, a bunch of Trump fanatics tweeting #trumpwon means he won.
 
Tony Stark said:
Yes screw polls, a bunch of Trump fanatics tweeting #trumpwon means he won.
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Screw polls?

Donald loves them:


Most snap polls show Trump winning the debate by a landslide CNN awarded Hillary Clinton an overwhelming victory in the first presidential debate - but most snap polls show Trump emerged victorious.
It turns out the CNN poll was rigged as hell.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I think based on whatever parameters we agree to, that share could be positive or negative. But if you are not willing to pay more in taxes to subsidize Trump if it turns out that was best for the budget, then you are just targeting people for personal reasons.
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:boggled: WTF? He's a claimed billionaire paying no income tax and you think what, I need to pay more taxes? You make zero sense.
 
The Big Dog said:
Screw polls?

Donald loves them:


Most snap polls show Trump winning the debate by a landslide CNN awarded Hillary Clinton an overwhelming victory in the first presidential debate - but most snap polls show Trump emerged victorious.
It turns out the CNN poll was rigged as hell.
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Yeah! Donald won self selecting online polls where his fanatical followers can vote as many times as they want. Victory!


LOL
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
:boggled: WTF? He's a claimed billionaire paying no income tax and you think what, I need to pay more taxes? You make zero sense.
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You might! You might not! You are the one claiming he doesn't pay his fair share without defining a share. I don't do things on my gut. I will take a definition for share you propose. But you have to be ready for the numbers to possibly conclude he pays his share and you do not.
 
BobTheCoward said:
What does share even mean? That sounds like a conclusion without a basis in anything. if we established parameters for a person's share, and figured out Trump has done more for the government that exceeded this share, would you agree to have the government subsidize him?
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Perhaps. I would need to see his tax returns before I could answer that.

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One would think that a billionaire who does so much to support the US would want to brag about his helping the economy and the nation. Instead he shovels BS on top of the returns so that no one can see them.
 
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Ladewig said:
Perhaps. I would need to see his tax returns before I could answer that.
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To define what a share means? That is the first step. You should be able to do that without any tax information.

I had two question marks in my post. Neither of them need tax returns to answer.
 
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