Pam Hupp arrested for murder

Samzilla said:
Pam Hupp, infamous player in the Russ Faria/Betsy Faria case, has been arrested for murder. Though it may come as a surprise to some to hear that the arrest has nothing to do with Betsy Faria.

http://fox2now.com/2016/08/23/pam-hupp-handcuffed-one-week-after-fatal-shooting-in-ofallon-home/

In this instance she's been charged with shooting a Mr. Gumpenberger in her home. From the article, something very interesting was written:

"St. Charles County Prosecuting Attorney Timothy Lohmar stated at a news conference Tuesday that the investigation revealed that Hupp had sought out Gumpenberger and brought him back to her home on the day of the shooting. Gumpenberger had $900 and a handwritten note in his pockets at the time of his death. The note listed instructions to kidnap Hupp, get "Russ' money," and then kill Hupp. Investigators believe Hupp placed those items on Gumpenberger after his death."

Remember that mysterious note investigators found on Betsy's computer that Pam knew about? The one that said Betsy feared her husband. In Russ Faria's retrial his defense was allowed to use her that time as an alternate suspect I believe. Now if one suspects her of the Betsy murder, and one suspects she wrote that note...well, it's looking like an M.O. now isn't it.
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So the police and prosecutors in this case are not only guilty of locking up an innocent man, but of leaving a murderer out there to kill again. The family of Mr Gumpenberger should sue them.
 
Strawberry said:
So the police and prosecutors in this case are not only guilty of locking up an innocent man, but of leaving a murderer out there to kill again. The family of Mr Gumpenberger should sue them.
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Penn and Teller Bull$%&@ had a show years ago where the statement was that when you arrest and convict the wrong person, you let a guilty person go free.
 
Strawberry said:
So the police and prosecutors in this case are not only guilty of locking up an innocent man, but of leaving a murderer out there to kill again. The family of Mr Gumpenberger should sue them.
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More importantly, they should have to replace the innocent they convicted in prison - serving the entire sentence handed down with no parole or time off for good behavior.
 
Even more of an update
Police seek new information on death of Pamela Hupp's mother

O'FALLON, Mo. (KMOV.com) -

Police are asking the public to provide new information on the death of Pamela Hupp's mother.

Hupp's mother Shirley Neumann died in October of 2013. She was living at the Lakeview Park Senior Living Facility in Fenton at the time.

Police say Hupp was the last person to see Neumann alive, dropping her off at the facility after a brief hospital stay. Hupp reportedly told staff that Neumann would not be down for dinner or breakfast.

Later the next day, a staff member found Neumann's body below her unit's balcony. Several of the balcony rails were broken.

Detectives ruled the incident an accidental death. But one month later, they received an anonymous email asking them to look into it again. They did and did not find any evidence to suggest anything other than an accident.
 
Fox 2 has written an article talking about letters reporter Chris Hayes and a judge has received over the years defending Pam Hupp.

http://fox2now.com/2016/09/19/the-pam-hupp-letters/

Interesting because on the www.stltoday.com website, in the comments sections of articles related to Pam Hupp there was someone in there constantly defending her. Since her arrest, apparently those comments have stopped and at least some of the commenters believe it was Pam Hupp herself (total speculation).
 
Samzilla said:
Fox 2 has written an article talking about letters reporter Chris Hayes and a judge has received over the years defending Pam Hupp.

http://fox2now.com/2016/09/19/the-pam-hupp-letters/

Interesting because on the www.stltoday.com website, in the comments sections of articles related to Pam Hupp there was someone in there constantly defending her. Since her arrest, apparently those comments have stopped and at least some of the commenters believe it was Pam Hupp herself (total speculation).
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Adam Lane and/or Lane99. A few other names as well. Pam herself was on there a few times... Usually lying about something or other.
 
Couple bits of news just came out.

1.) Dateline will have a new episode this friday (it's fourth about this case in all):
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_9955ab34-a18f-50c1-8d26-91b5f37391e3.html

2.) It appears police found a $100 bill in Hupp's home with a serial number identifier matching those of the $100 bills found in Gumperberger's pocket.

From the article, "A police officer wrote in the warrant, 'It’s extremely uncommon for two people who reportedly do not know each other, to individually possess $100 denominations…which contain the same identifiers (and) serial numbers…In order.' ”

http://fox2now.com/2016/11/17/pam-hupps-unusual-connection-to-cash-found-in-murder-victims-pocket/
 
abaddon said:
Unavailable from my location. What's the gist of it?
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-a terminally ill woman, Betsy Faria, was murdered at her home

-the husband had the following alibi: gas station surveillance footage showing him away from home; it was his weekly games night at his friend's house and 4 eyewitnesses put him there (his friends); his cell phone pinged at this location all night; a receipt from a drive-thru he stopped at on the way home (cell phone pings also corroborated this) put his travel time at exactly the time he arrived home and called 911.

Long story short, he could not have been there to do the murder, not to mention his wife was going to pass away shortly anyway. There's no evidence of him hiring a hitman or any such thing.

In closing arguments, the prosecution concocted a cockamamie theory that the husband and his friends enacted the ultimate role-playing game fantasy...a game of murder.

They claimed the husband gave his cell phone to a friend so it would ping at their house and the drive-thru while the husband snuck away home to commit the murder. Then the friend drives to the husband's place, gives him back his phone, and he calls 911 at that point. The friend drives away.

Of course the friends were never charged with anything, and this theory was only presented by the prosecution during closing arguments (not sure how this wasn't objected to despite the rarity of objecting during closing arguments).

-the wife's friend: was the last known person to see Betsy alive; recently had Betsy change a life insurance policy over to her unbeknownst to anyone else; showed up to drive Betsy home from treatment despite Betsy saying no; a phone call to Betsy from the friend around the time of Betsy's death puts the friend near Betsy's house despite the friend saying she called from home (not near Betsy's house); the friend's story changed multiple times.

Guess who was the star prosecution witness? Guess who went to prison?

That's right. The friend was the star prosecution witness. The husband went to prison.

Betsy's children sued the friend for the life insurance money (as one of the friend's stories to the police was that Betsy signed the life insurance over to her to give to the children because she didn't trust her husband to do that). However, the friend kept the money. She won the civil suit and the children lost.

Now that star witness has been charged with murdering a person who she claims was a hitman sent by the husband. But again, there's no evidence of that. Only evidence of her finding a mentally disabled man she could lure to her house and kill (and then frame him up as a hitman). To lure him...well, she posed as a Dateline producer it appears.
 
Samzilla said:
-a terminally ill woman, Betsy Faria, was murdered at her home

-the husband had the following alibi: gas station surveillance footage showing him away from home; it was his weekly games night at his friend's house and 4 eyewitnesses put him there (his friends); his cell phone pinged at this location all night; a receipt from a drive-thru he stopped at on the way home (cell phone pings also corroborated this) put his travel time at exactly the time he arrived home and called 911.

Long story short, he could not have been there to do the murder, not to mention his wife was going to pass away shortly anyway. There's no evidence of him hiring a hitman or any such thing.

In closing arguments, the prosecution concocted a cockamamie theory that the husband and his friends enacted the ultimate role-playing game fantasy...a game of murder.

They claimed the husband gave his cell phone to a friend so it would ping at their house and the drive-thru while the husband snuck away home to commit the murder. Then the friend drives to the husband's place, gives him back his phone, and he calls 911 at that point. The friend drives away.

Of course the friends were never charged with anything, and this theory was only presented by the prosecution during closing arguments (not sure how this wasn't objected to despite the rarity of objecting during closing arguments).

-the wife's friend: was the last known person to see Betsy alive; recently had Betsy change a life insurance policy over to her unbeknownst to anyone else; showed up to drive Betsy home from treatment despite Betsy saying no; a phone call to Betsy from the friend around the time of Betsy's death puts the friend near Betsy's house despite the friend saying she called from home (not near Betsy's house); the friend's story changed multiple times.

Guess who was the star prosecution witness? Guess who went to prison?

That's right. The friend was the star prosecution witness. The husband went to prison.

Betsy's children sued the friend for the life insurance money (as one of the friend's stories to the police was that Betsy signed the life insurance over to her to give to the children because she didn't trust her husband to do that). However, the friend kept the money. She won the civil suit and the children lost.

Now that star witness has been charged with murdering a person who she claims was a hitman sent by the husband. But again, there's no evidence of that. Only evidence of her finding a mentally disabled man she could lure to her house and kill (and then frame him up as a hitman). To lure him...well, she posed as a Dateline producer it appears.
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Nice summary Samzilla. I can't get the show either. Hopefully it can be posted to youtube, but I guess that endangers the account.
Where is the new tomorrow where we can just buy these shows? This tale is an unbelievable classic, yet true. I have vanishingly little doubt she threw her own mother off that balcony as well. Was this covered?
 
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