Pam Hupp arrested for murder

Samson said:
Nice summary Samzilla. I can't get the show either. Hopefully it can be posted to youtube, but I guess that endangers the account.
Where is the new tomorrow where we can just buy these shows? This tale is an unbelievable classic, yet true. I have vanishingly little doubt she threw her own mother off that balcony as well. Was this covered?
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They talk about that, yes. They also show footage of her testimony in the civil lawsuit that I had never seen before or even heard mentioned in articles.

This case flies so under the radar yet it's now tied with two other cases for having the most Dateline episodes about it...the OJ case, and the Jon Benet Ramsey case. Those were cases of the century. That's how truly strange this case is.
 
Samzilla said:
They talk about that, yes. They also show footage of her testimony in the civil lawsuit that I had never seen before or even heard mentioned in articles.

This case flies so under the radar yet it's now tied with two other cases for having the most Dateline episodes about it...the OJ case, and the Jon Benet Ramsey case. Those were cases of the century. That's how truly strange this case is.
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I see there's quite a bit on youtube but not that show.
I'll watch a few clips, but there is little mystery except how so much bad can be packed in one piece of work. :jaw-dropp
 
No need to look far. Pam Hupp's police interview was played in court but the jury were excluded.
Just WOW.
 
Fascinating case. Looks to me like the idiocy of the prosecution allowed a serial killer to notch up number 3. (At least?)

Before her Mom died, a Lincoln County investigator was talking to Pam Hupp about the coming Betsy Faria murder trial. It was June of 2013. At one point Hupp and the Chief detective discussed Hupp's mom.

Hupp told the Sergeant that her mother was a reason why she could not have killed Betsey Faria.

Pam Hupp said, "I really hate to say it. If I wanted money, my mom`s worth a half a million that I get when she dies. My mom has dementia and doesn`t half the time know who we are. She`s been living alone in a condo. And I know that sounds really morbid and stuff like that. But I am a life insurance person. If I really wanted money, there was an easier way than trying to combat somebody (Betsey) that`s physically stronger than me. I`m just saying."

Four months after the interview Hupp's mom, Shirley Neumann who was 77, fell to her death on Halloween. She went through a third floor balcony of a Fenton senior living community.
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http://fox2now.com/2016/09/12/in-her-own-words-pam-hupp-on-her-mothers-fatal-fall/
 
ST. CHARLES COUNTY • Life and death decisions don’t have to feel dramatic. Ask Brent Charlton, a man who may be alive because he was too busy mowing lawns to consider an offer from a blond stranger.

The St. Charles County man remembers her pulling up in an SUV on Aug. 10 and calling out: “Hey, I work for ‘Dateline.’ I wanted to see if you’re interested in doing a re-enactment.”

He’s glad now that he didn’t have the time.

“Are you sure? It’s only going to take a minute,” Charlton recalls her saying. And each time he said no, she persisted, asking, “Are you certain?”
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http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_92609f60-ba13-5830-b325-ead4dbbaa9e1.html
 
In addition to the new person coming forward as noted by Shiner, it may as well be said that PH plead not guilty on January 30th.
 
Samzilla said:
Couple bits of news just came out.

1.) Dateline will have a new episode this friday (it's fourth about this case in all):
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_9955ab34-a18f-50c1-8d26-91b5f37391e3.html

2.) It appears police found a $100 bill in Hupp's home with a serial number identifier matching those of the $100 bills found in Gumperberger's pocket.

From the article, "A police officer wrote in the warrant, 'It’s extremely uncommon for two people who reportedly do not know each other, to individually possess $100 denominations…which contain the same identifiers (and) serial numbers…In order.' ”
http://fox2now.com/2016/11/17/pam-hupps-unusual-connection-to-cash-found-in-murder-victims-pocket/
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This is the sort of thing that results in false convictions. Actually how unlikely is it? Presumably hundred dollar bills are released in batches, so if you get cash in the same place at about the sometime it is not that unlikely. A professional statistician should be the opinion on this not a police officer. Key issues are how many other hundred dollar bills with non consecutive bills were there?
 
Planigale said:
This is the sort of thing that results in false convictions. Actually how unlikely is it? Presumably hundred dollar bills are released in batches, so if you get cash in the same place at about the sometime it is not that unlikely. A professional statistician should be the opinion on this not a police officer. Key issues are how many other hundred dollar bills with non consecutive bills were there?
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I highly doubt the consecutive serial number thing is going to lead to her conviction. It'll probably be the to-do list that makes zero sense since Russ is set to collect millions from the state. Why would Russ care about what amounts to petty cash when he's going to get way more legally?
 
So Pam Hupp deceives Betsy Faria into signing over her life insurance and murders her to redeem the payout, and the courts rule this is hunky dory and she gets to keep the money. Nice work, Missouri.
 
Desert Fox said:
Penn and Teller Bull$%&@ had a show years ago where the statement was that when you arrest and convict the wrong person, you let a guilty person go free.
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And prosecutor's and arresters should be thrown in jail for the rest of his/the person falsely tried's sentence - in solitary.
 
For any Facebook users there is a Justice for Betsy Faria and Louis Gumpenberger that has a collection of conversations Pam Hupp had on various forums and Facebook where she was taunting the alibi witnesses for Russ Faria.
 
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