Merged Obama birth certificate CT / SSN CT / Birther discussion Part II

[Bubba]

by J U

Are you claiming they were undercover?

Shall I not answer again, or shall I wait for

"Answer the question"

I'm pretty sure I indicated I think it is plausible. Does that help?

 

[JayUtah]

Not I.

By others, raised years ago which cannot be proven false.

Why would it need to be proven false? Was it proven true?

 

[JayUtah]

Shall I not answer again, or shall I wait for



I'm pretty sure I indicated I think it is plausible. Does that help?

You seem very concerned that arguments you haven't actually made are being pinned on you. But you seem very reluctant to tell us whether you're actually making the arguments you expect others to address.

Are you claiming the Obama family were undercover agents? I'm not interested in your estimate of plausibility. I'm interested in a yes or no answer to my question.

 

[Bubba]

Why?

 

[JayUtah]

Why?

Why what?

 

[Bubba]

by J U

You seem very concerned that arguments you haven't actually made are being pinned on you.

Nice try.

But you seem very reluctant to tell us whether you're actually making the arguments you expect others to address.

Come to think of it, its more like ascertaining the arguments posed are at least seen.

 

[Bubba]

Why what?

Why do you ask if I think the family is undercover.

 

[JayUtah]

It's a simple question. Are you claiming the Obamas were undercover agents?

 

[Bubba]

Why evade my question?

Based on what I've seen I think it is possible, but I know better than to say I think it is so where there is no proof either way.

What do you call that?

 

[JayUtah]

Are you claiming it? Yes or no.

 

[JayUtah]

Why do you ask if I think the family is undercover.

That's not what I asked. I asked if you were making the claim. I already gave you the reason for asking whether you're making claims. A simple answer, please, to a simple question.

 

[Bubba]

Why do you ask if I'm making the claim?

How long must I wait to be ordered to answer the question ?

 

[Bubba]

Whats your best guess for my answer?

 

[Elagabalus]

Yeah if you want a 'Manchurian" candidate why not give him that type of name with a spotless Pilgrim or Jamestown middle class working lineage, military service, robust protestant, etc, etc, etc but then the CIA or secret Gub'mint knew the USA would be more liberal in 2008 in the early 1960's...chuckle.

"Manchurian Candidate"? It's more like "Rosemary's Baby" ...

 

[JayUtah]

Why do you ask if I'm making the claim?

Asked and answered. You say people unfairly hold you accountable for claims you didn't make. That makes it important for you to be crystal clear whether you're making a claim.

 

[sts60]

For a while there, it looked like Bubba was actually going to show some conviction for one of the conspiracy claims he favored. But I see we're back to more of the old-fashioned passive-aggressive troll-y approach.

 

[JayUtah]

Whats your best guess for my answer?

You seem especially reluctant to tell us whether you're actually making a claim. How are your critics expected to treat you fairly on a point you have deemed so important? I asked you a simple yes or no question that you seem strangely reticent to resolve. A reasonable person might come to believe you're being deliberately ambiguous so you can exploit the ambiguity for rhetorical effect. I'm sure you wouldn't want that impression.

 

[Bubba]

What if I said yes I claim they were undercover.

(I'm not making that claim btw)

 

[Bubba]

For a while there, it looked like Bubba was actually going to show some conviction for one of the conspiracy claims he favored. But I see we're back to more of the old-fashioned passive-aggressive troll-y approach.

Lest you suffer withdrawal

 

[JayUtah]

What if I said yes I claim they were undercover.

(I'm not making that claim btw)

Then you'd still be stalling instead of answering a question designed to preclude a situation you have rebuked your critics for.